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What unrest? I am supporting moderate Muslims, if that causes unrest TOUGH!

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You know darn well that I am not talking about this thread, but out of respect for the people concerned I will say no more!

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My apologies that this is so long, but it is worth reading:

A German's View on Islam - worth reading because this is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist--a man, whose family was German aristocracy prior t...o World War II, and owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of our world had come.
My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
Islamic prayers have now been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?! To whom? Not to the vast majority of Canadians!).
The Islamic way is only peaceful until the fanatics move in.
In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food products in your local supermarket. Foods on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding throughout the world.
In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of no-go zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuses to acknowledge British law.
As for we who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Anyone who doubts the seriousness of this issue and just deletes without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.
So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on in the hope that thousands, world-wide, read this, think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.

(Apologies also that it contains so many American spellings!)

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You look to yourself.

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You fit that description perfectly Tara does not.

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You know ... you might sound more erudite if you actually kept up and knew what you were on about.

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JBR, thanks for the long post that was written by Dr. Emanuel Tanya. He said nothing that the more intelligent of us don't already know, but if we continue to allow the weaker minds to try and convince people that we are wrong, everybody will suffer... ,and there is no going back once that happens
The strong Muslims always attack the weakest ( as they did in the Manchester bombing), so they attack parts of Africa where they believe the people are less intelligent, so easiest to con, with their promises of what Allah will give them. Not difficult to do where poverty is high and people look for hope.
The mass immigration to Europe was carefully planned and well executed by the militants..... because they knew that Christianity's teaching encouraged people to be kind and caring to all those in need. Some of the Immigrants were people trying to escape Syria, some were Africans looking for a better life, but there were also some militants who encouraged them all to keep going, because that was another way to get those, who wanted to be involved in setting up the Caliphate, into Europe. They may not have been a majority but one strong leader can lead thousands of the weak ones with false promises of a great future and the blessing of Allah.
I question the mentality of those whose desire to help strangers allows them to put their own loved ones at risk..... but it is still happening
If the weak Muslims want to live in Europe and follow Western laws, then lets hear them shout it from the rooftops and report anything they believe to be extremist behavior ( please don't say that nobody listens, because that kind in info is what our intelligence sections use and they are on to a big sect since Manchester!). It is too late to be looking for somebody to blame, because this is now becoming a war, and everybody, including the Muslims, has to decide which side they are fighting for.

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A good article and as Twink says it's something that many of us realise but others fail to understand so it well worth repeating .

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I couldn't sleep so I read it in the middle of the night JBR, scary but true.