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Unfortunately Floydy, Timber is still heavily used in the building trade but we are becoming more aware of their importance and are making an effort to replace them....

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The claims about an Ice Age Coming in the 1970s were not scientific theories, not even hypothesis and were soon sifted out by peer review of scientists. They were popularized by magazines such as Time magazine and these publications were not scientific journals. http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/20...david-kirtley/
Climate science has advanced much.

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The flat-earthers reckon that the actions of 7+ billion people, coal power, vehicle emissions, massive daily destruction of native forests, changed farming practices including synthetic fertilizers etc etc etc etc
have no impact on the planet ????

Reckon I'll go with the overwhelming majority of genuine climate scientists who say otherwise.
Not only scientists but most of the world's governments who have nothing whatever to gain in the popularity-stakes by imposing additional taxes and other measures to counter the problem.

When I check out the sites of the non-believers, it is amazing how most can be tracked back to fundie-christian creationists or oil companies.

My suggestion for those who think it is all crap ?
Invest in one of those beautiful South Sea Islands with coral atolls and pearly white beaches where you can buy a home for peanuts.
Only problem ? Some are no more than 1 - 5 metres above current sea levels.
But if there is no climate-caused rise in ocean levels, you're on a winner !
Like to chance it ?

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Now that Trump is in the Whitehouse there is absolutely no chance that temperature rise will be halted within 2'C. Life will be hard for your kids and grandkids.

Combine climate change with the end of antibiotics (yep, there is nothing to replace them in sight) and the human race is in for a rough time over the next century or so.

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That was one bad winter (1962-63) I remember Cliff Michelmore (sp) hosting a program called some thing like "The New Ice Age?". No science just the result of a single very cold winter and an ice age was coming. I remember it very well I had to walk to school in it.

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Good hypotheses Pummie, and I would love for all forms of pollution and fossil burning to stop tomorrow and when the sea levels continue to rise, and 'Global Warming' continues unanabated, all you tree huggers will turn round and say "Oh we didn't realise that other factors were causing Global Warming instead"

You are absolutely right about fertilisers and exhaust emissions, but only on a local scale. You have not taken into account the size of our atmosphere and the miniscule effect that we are having upon it. 70% of the Earth surface is covered by water or Ice and of the remaining 30% only about 5% is inhabited. Australia is even less than this with the majority of the population restricted to the coastal areas. The Earth is a constantly changing entity, if you are basing all of your theories on statistics collected over the last few thousand years you will have observed that - like a pendulum - our climate alternates between hot and cold.

The Earth is around four and a half Billion years old and has experienced just about every scenario, practically covered in a far reaching Ice sheet, or covered with treeless deserts - In Edinburgh there is a road called 'Vine Street' because vines could be grown there when the temperature was far warmer than it is now - excesses of CO2 in the atmosphere is not a new thing by any stretch of the imagination but this planet has a way of equalising itself without our help.

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One thing I've always wondered about the likes of the latest Arctic watch,man is always blamed ie: the ice is forming later to enable the Polar Bears to get back on it,why not feed them? the argument then becomes we are interfering,well if the ice forming later is down to man we are interfering any way.

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Maybe.
But what dire suffering might humanity have to endure - and for how long - until this "equalization" process returns the planet to a comfortable, livable state ?
Decades, centuries, millenia, millions of years with no surviving humans ?

If there is a chance that we can assist that "equalising" process, why should we not ?

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Methane is lighter than air.

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Hi

The Planet Earth has always been cyclic.

Much of the UK was covered in Ice not that long ago in Geographical Terms.

Let us for a moment forget CO2, fossil fuels emit far nastier pollutants.

We have renewable energy in our grasp, no need to be dependant on rabid Sunni Muslim States controlling our economy.

We should go for it.

If we do, we shall be our own Masters.

The Saudis, with their Radical Islam, would be out of the Equation.