06-06-2016, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mups
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That may be so in your case Malcolm, but please note I stated that Mosley said he was NOT overweight. I listened to what the man was saying, and it was both surprising and interesting.
06-06-2016, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mups
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That may be so in your case Malcolm, but please note I stated that Mosley said he was NOT overweight. I listened to what the man was saying, and it was both surprising and interesting.
They believe that T.2 is caused by failing pancreas and maybe lifestyle choices so Mosleys method will not only make them lose weight but may have been a first step towards eradicating drug treatment for T.2 diabetes. If this is correct it may mean that diet instructions for diabetics have been wrong, from when changed, and people like Nom may not have had to suffer some of the problems he has had.
It would be difficult to prove but most diabetics put on wieght.... apart from those who are so badly controlled that dehydration causes weight loss.
06-06-2016, 06:27 PM
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I had an interesting conversation with a GP about current diabetic advice, he agreed with some of my findings. sadly he left the practice before we could expand on our opinions. However the baseline concerned testing to find which foodstuffs had effects on different diabetics.This could only be proved by extensive testing which meant many more bloodtests a day that gave an end user a truer picture on how they respond to differing foodstuffs.
06-06-2016, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nom
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I had an interesting conversation with a GP about current diabetic advice, he agreed with some of my findings. sadly he left the practice before we could expand on our opinions. However the baseline concerned testing to find which foodstuffs had effects on different diabetics.This could only be proved by extensive testing which meant many more bloodtests a day that gave an end user a truer picture on how they respond to differing foodstuffs.
08-06-2016, 06:35 AM
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Something that is rarely mentioned about T2 diabetics is the difference in the genetics between T2 and normal people. last time i checked it stands at 38 gene differences. Im now convinced my mother was an undiagnosed diabetic.http://www.well.ox.ac.uk/jun-10-gene...ype-2-diabetes
Twelve new genes associated with type 2 diabetes have been identified in the largest study yet of the connections between differences in people's DNA and their risk of diabetes.
The international consortium of scientists, led by Professor Mark McCarthy of the Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics at Oxford University, report their findings in the journal Nature Genetics - 10 years after the first draft of the human genome was announced on 26 June 2000.
‘The signals we have identified provide important clues to the biological basis of type 2 diabetes,' says Professor McCarthy. ‘The challenge will be to turn these genetic findings into better ways of treating and preventing the condition.'
The identification of 12 new genes brings the total number of genetic regions known to be associated with type 2 diabetes to 38. The genes tend to be involved in the working of pancreatic cells that produce the hormone insulin (insulin is crucial for controlling levels of glucose in the blood), the control of insulin's action in the body, and in cell-cycle regulation.
The findings not only improve understanding of the processes underpinning type 2 diabetes, but give new biological pathways that can be explored as targets for new therapies.
A friend of mine used to brag about how he controlled his diabetes with diet alone. He was found face down on a beach after slipping into a diabetic coma.
Lets not forget the vested interest our GP`s and big Pharma have in the financial reward they get in selling their products.
08-06-2016, 07:44 AM
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[QUOTE=Nom;921257Lets not forget the vested interest our GP`s and big Pharma have in the financial reward they get in selling their products.[/QUOTE]
I would totally agree with you on this point Nom! I am very careful about maintaining good blood sugar levels, so could not understand when my BS suddenly went out of control for a few days........ so much so that my GP arranged for me to speak to an insulin specialist. I asked this specialist why medical people always blamed the patient for things going wrong, when my written monitoring of food eaten and insulin injected indicated that the problem was coming from another source.....ie the insulin.
The next time this happened I asked a pharmacy to send the insulin I was using, back to the company for checking. They agreed and I handed the insulin to them.... but received no reports so I contacted the company directly... who said they have never received it. I then complained to the pharmacy co. that I had handed it to, who said that I had never given it to them.... a downright lie
I even wrote to my MP who was also unable to achieve more, so I returned to the Insulin specialist to say that I believed that the insulin produced and the advice given was unsatisfactory and unless he could make any suggestions to improve the situation, I could only assume that the medical profession were more interested in holding on to their jobs rather than getting good care for diabetics. He suggested that I inject in my stomach, rather than my legs, but unsurprisingly that didn't help either, so I gave up and decided to deal with the situation the way I always had, by regular blood tests and adjusting my insulin doses..... but it still didn't stop the problems where the insulin sometimes didn't work properly so I, once again, contacted the insulin company who told me " we only bother to check insulin if we have a lot of complaints about the same batch". I advised them that their product could be more effective if they could establish why their given timings for insulins action on food, were better tested, using humans rather than animals...... but that would cost money.Anyone who believes that healthcare is more to do with making people healthy than making money, is a fool!
08-06-2016, 10:39 AM
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I could go on with these forever, so many studies into Diabetes. Such a complex disease. Just for the record both my parents were heavy smokers, was the cause of my condition pre ordained.Scott M Montgomery
The disease process that leads to the development of type 2
diabetes may start in the womb at the very beginning of
life. Fetal growth and birth weight are predictive of diabetes
risk in later years.
1
This suggests that the factors that
influence the rate of fetal growth – and therefore birth
weight – may also activate the process that leads to type 2
diabetes in adult life. It is well known that smoking during
pregnancy affects fetal growth and often results in babies
with a low birth weight. There is also direct evidence that a
woman who smokes during pregnancy increases the risk of
her child developing type 2 diabetes in later life.
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Scott M Montgomery reports.
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The hypothesis that tobacco smoking
during pregnancy is a risk for diabetes
was tested using data from the UK
National Child Development
Study.
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In this study, all the people
(approximately 17 000) who were
born in the UK during a chosen
week in 1958 were followed from
their mothers’ pregnancy, through
birth and childhood, and continue
to be monitored through adult life.
Among the study participants who
were diagnosed with diabetes by the
age of 33 years, almost 60% had a
mother who smoked during pregnancy.
Only 30% of those without diabetes
had a mother who smoked while
pregnant. Furthermore, it was found
that the more a mother smoked during
pregnancy, the greater the risk of her
child developing diabetes in later life.
These results are from study member
08-06-2016, 04:18 PM
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I don't think that anyone could say that I'm overweight...I'm just under 9 stone. My BMI is about 23...My weight has never varied by much over my lifetime...I'm now 72...I was diagnosed with type 2 over 5 years ago (Hba1c 7.9) and I was prescribed metformin. I preferred to avoid the meds and chose to reduce my blood glucose by diet.
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