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Very few unfurnished rentals around here muddy they are all furnished. That's why I said they should have new soft furnishings etc, it seems wrong to me to charge a fortune for something that has had who knows what sat and walked on it.

Re: Nasty Party has a Heart of Gold

Julie I have some knowledge of the rental market .
Most are unfurnished but with white goods.
Social housing is similar
As most people bring their own soft furnishing .

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Not round here. Perhaps you as usual know it all but I've looked round here over the years for various reasons and unfurnished places are like hens teeth. It's to do with rental contracts I believe it's easier to get tenants out of furnished places.

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Nope. You've failed to read my post as usual.

These people ARE NOT homeless. Most of the people you see on the streets are absolutely 100% accommodated. Those that are not have CHOSEN to turn down available accommodation or abused the accommodation services they have been offered and been thrown out.

I will say it again until cloth eared people get the message:

NOONE, BUT NOONE, NEEDS TO SLEEP ROUGH ON THE STREETS OF BRITAIN.

There ARE emergency and temporary accommodation services ready and waiting to receive these people.

But we DO as a society provide services. There are dozens of support centres in every town and city of this country where they can go to hang out, stay warm and dry, get a breakfast, lunch, evening meal, hot drink and usually essentials like sleeping bags, clothing, underwear, sanitary goods, toothbrushes/paste, deodorants and so on. Those services also help these people with adminsitrative matters such as when they get letters from their utility providers that they don't understand, or from their banks or benefits etc. Many of these people eat better than ordinary people do. They get at least 3 square meals a day (often free) in contrast to others who live in MacDonalds and fish and chip shops.

You have to stop thinking and looking at these people as "Homeless". They absolutely are not homeless at all.

They ARE addicts and they need support, long term support, to break out of that cycle. But before that can happen they have to actually want to break out of that cycle. Many don't want to.

We have a drink/drug problem, not a homeless problem.

Why did you live in a car?!

I presume you were either ignorant of available emergency/temporary accommodation or too proud to use it.

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So what is your answer to the problem? You must have a solution which isn't costing the tax payer millions of pounds

Easy to point out but fixing a different matter entirely. All the members here I am sure are waiting with baited breath to your read your grand plan

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I disagree. People do not live on the streets because of the lack of housing. Even if they had somewhere to live they would still need to be able afford the rent and be capable of running a home

When children reach the age where they wish to move out of their parent's home, they don't say 'Mum, Dad, I'm moving out but there are no houses so I'm going to live on the street'.

People live on the streets for all sorts of sad reasons.

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I think I've told my story so often everyone would have got it by now. But we lived in our car for about a year in 1984-5 we lost our starter home when interest rates out stripped what we could afford to pay and I'd had my second miscarriage and lost my job.

My husband didn't miss a day at work and that year we paid back all we owed on the house, but couldn't afford to rent a property too. We had an offer of accommodation but it meant we had to split up and move out of the area my husband was working in. So we stayed in the car until we could find accommodation ourselves. I got a job with a tied flat and that got us into a proper home again. Four years later council offered us this flat we live in and we jumped at the chance. Neither apart from when my husband had a stroke have we ever had benefit or missed a payment on our rent or mortgage.

We had it much easier than many because we don't drink or take addicting drugs. We also had that job that meant we didn't have to try and get work with no address which is a huge problem for many.

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Good post.

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But who are the real beggars ? ones sleeping in doorways or the ones riding round in carriages.

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The ones riding in carriages don't beg they take courtesy of a besotted public.