26-03-2018, 09:13 AM
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Re: Free lunches during the school holidays
Originally Posted by realspeed
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Things wern't like this free this and free that when we had young children at school, yet we managed by going without.I tend to blame the parents not doing enough to provide for their kids. yes in extreme circumstances sure free lunches but after a strict means test first. All too often people expect to get without working for and that is the wrong attitude.
26-03-2018, 09:31 AM
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Re: Free lunches during the school holidays
So take all the children of feckless parents into care? Who is going to pay the costs of the support workers, accommodation, food and clothing of these kids? The tax payer, the same as now. A totally ludicrous suggestion, rehoming thousands of needy children. Some people see no further than the ends of their noses.There is NO simple solution, certainly not by depriving children of their parents.
26-03-2018, 09:55 AM
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Re: Free lunches during the school holidays
Originally Posted by CeeCee
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So take all the children of feckless parents into care? Who is going to pay the costs of the support workers, accommodation, food and clothing of these kids? The tax payer, the same as now. A totally ludicrous suggestion, rehoming thousands of needy children. Some people see no further than the ends of their noses.There is NO simple solution, certainly not by depriving children of their parents.
It just heaps more deprivation on the kids to take their parents away, obviously some enjoy giving pain to others. We need a healthy happy childhood and if feeding kids does it IMO it's a cheap price to pay especially as most of it is happily given in charity not out of tax.
Originally Posted by Nom
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Benefits are not free, they are paid for by the workforce, so we can have help when we need it, Some we dont mind collecting like our pension, others we hope we never need like losing our jobs or illness.
26-03-2018, 10:25 AM
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Re: Free lunches during the school holidays
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Just because I've been homeless in the past and pretty hard up all my life thankfully hasn't made me hardened to others and begrudging them getting help especially as housing is so expensive, wages so low and people have problems coping. All those benefits amount to very little actual money in a persons hand. Child benefit just about feeds a child, just. But don't let throw feet grow you can't buy shoes too !
Housing benefit goes to landlords so again not exactly making a claimant rich. Working tax benefit I'd love to know who gets it we are on nmw or where until my husbands accident, never managed to claim it as they said we worked too many hours !
Most people pay for school meals it's a minority don't, they have to be pretty badly off to do it.
Many people who can't feed their kids are in temporary accommodation having been in that recently I can see why that happens you don't get a cooker or anywhere tp put one ! Try cooking a healthy meal over a candle !
Fuel poverty too hits some families the ones paying more for their fuel because they have to feed the meter a straight and absolutely dispicable way to make poor people poorer.
Try living in these people's shoes I can assure you it's not as easy as you think.
Landlords do NOT get the rent paid directly to them and they havent done for many years. It is paid direct to the tenant who then has the choice of paying the landlord, buying booze and cigarettes, spending it on holidays or buying mobile phones.
all small children now get free school meals regardless of their parents income. thats reception, year 1 and year 2.
What really gets me is some parents sit there with their hand out getting everything given to them while elderly people who have paid their taxes all their lives (and many fought for their country) are having to sell their homes to pay for their care.
That generation were proud and hated taking anything that they didnt feel they had earned or was “charity”. We were quite poor and we were eligible for free school meals because My Mum looked into it. However, my Dad wouldnt take the form to his employer because he said he was too embarrassed to let him know that he couldnt feed his own kids. We had to come home at lunchtimes and Mum made us a snack.
26-03-2018, 10:43 AM
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Re: Free lunches during the school holidays
Originally Posted by CeeCee
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So take all the children of feckless parents into care? Who is going to pay the costs of the support workers, accommodation, food and clothing of these kids? The tax payer, the same as now. A totally ludicrous suggestion, rehoming thousands of needy children. Some people see no further than the ends of their noses.There is NO simple solution, certainly not by depriving children of their parents.
26-03-2018, 11:46 AM
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Re: Free lunches during the school holidays
Originally Posted by Flowerpower
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Landlords do NOT get the rent paid directly to them and they havent done for many years. It is paid direct to the tenant who then has the choice of paying the landlord, buying booze and cigarettes, spending it on holidays or buying mobile phones. all small children now get free school meals regardless of their parents income. thats reception, year 1 and year 2.
What really gets me is some parents sit there with their hand out getting everything given to them while elderly people who have paid their taxes all their lives (and many fought for their country) are having to sell their homes to pay for their care.
That generation were proud and hated taking anything that they didnt feel they had earned or was “charity”. We were quite poor and we were eligible for free school meals because My Mum looked into it. However, my Dad wouldnt take the form to his employer because he said he was too embarrassed to let him know that he couldnt feed his own kids. We had to come home at lunchtimes and Mum made us a snack.
Wrong!!! - The scumbag 'nasty party' put a stop to that last September (??) or at least fairly recently!!!
26-03-2018, 02:46 PM
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Re: Free lunches during the school holidays
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Wrong!!! - The scumbag 'nasty party' put a stop to that last September (??) or at least fairly recently!!!
UJ, I will always support those who lose out because they cannot fill the forms in correctly.
They need help, they are the most vulnerable.
I will not and cannot ever support the Prats at the back.
If they are fit enough to climb over 6 foot fences, they are fit enough to work.
26-03-2018, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Wrong!!! - The scumbag 'nasty party' put a stop to that last September (??) or at least fairly recently!!!
They are not all disadvanged let their parents feed them .
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