The truth hit home, obviously.


Don't attribute to me things that I have not said and I won't call you what doing that makes you which is a liar; is that fair?
I did not say that I think Farage was wrong, read it again.
I didn't say that I was talking on Nigel's behalf either but don't let a little thing like honesty stop you.

This whole forum is based upon people voicing their opinions and I can do that just the same as you do but there's no need to blatantly twist what is said and turn them into lies just to try and further your own delusional agenda.

Instead of whinging and thinking up more malicious comments after finding that you're left up the creek without a paddle because the party you hoped would win seats stands about as much chance of doing so as The Monster Raving Loony Party does, you might try looking at the bigger picture by pulling your eyes and thoughts away from fish and a bloke called Nigel.


"Britain is set for a brighter economic future and the EU can't bear it"


"A malignant seed of jealousy towards the United Kingdom is growing in continental Europe and it isn’t hard to understand why.

Britain is on course to outperform the EU in the immediate post-Brexit period and the contrast in our fortunes is going to become more and more obvious in the second half of this year.

Boris Johnson may be getting berated for refusing to increase the pace of his tortoise-like trudge out of lockdown, but compared to the EU club that the UK has left behind we are strapped to rocket boosters and sporting go-faster stripes.

Don’t just take my word for it, it is also the verdict of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which has just upgraded our growth forecast for this year by almost a full percentage point. Though the OECD expects all developed economies to benefit from a vaccine effect, its latest bulletin this week will come as a dagger to the heart of Brussels."

"Anyone seeking an explanation for all the sleights and hostility emanating towards Britain from Brussels, Berlin and Paris in recent weeks need look no further. The European Commission and the governments of Germany and France will all be painfully aware of where things are headed: us getting back to normal and benefiting from freeing-up a “coiled spring” economy, while they are stuck on the nursery slopes of mass vaccination and still implementing prosperity-destroying Covid-control measures."

Yes, that pretty much sums it up.
As said in other places in these forums (and even though you strangely seem to hate people agreeing with my opinions) it looks increasingly like the EU's actions are going to at the very least severely curtail their ambitions and at worst cause significant damage which could threaten the entire union.
Do you feel sorry for them?
I doubt that many people do.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-eu-cant-bear/

Yes it's subscription-only but there is a free trial period for anybody so inclined, otherwise the snippets posted above give the general idea.

I might not entirely agree with your surmise regarding Boris and Brexit but that aside you are absolutely correct; time will tell.

Surely it cannot trundle on and on indefinitely?
Either the EU accepts the pushbacks Frost & co. are making and they ratify the agreement or they don't, but I cannot realistically see how any major Brexit-related difficulties could carry on beyond that point.
Minor ones certainly and probably for years, but major disagreements?

To answer your question Zaphod re ' it cannot trundle on indefinitely'
Yes, it can, unless we start ASSERTING our sovereignty instead of
reacting to EU dictates?? We have the right, international law is on our
side over this matter !! Why must we wait for 5•5 yrs before we can
act on this ??
And at the end of 5•5 yrs there is no definite plan for us to get what
is ours as of right either, just another negotiation ??
Sovereignty HAS to be asserted, nobody will make a present of it to
you !! As has become quite evident !!
Our main problem does not lie with the EU, But with the people
of UK that oppose Brexit who no doubt have their reasons for their
stance ??
Unfortunately for them, they were in the minority whenever the public
were allowed to vote !!
Whilst l think Lord Frost could possibly bring about the changes you speak of, he is a voice in the wilderness that is the Tory party and he
will soon be replaced or forced to resign just like all the other
brexit ministers that were appointed earlier ??

Only you thinks this is true ^^^ So far you know better than Ben Habib, Richard Tice, Nigel Farage, the Express, FFL, 12000 fishermen and hundreds of thousands of people in the fishing and related industry.

Your opinion is these people are stupid and don't knownknow what they were voting for and they should stop whinging and whining.

Priceless, Zaphod, just when I thought you couldn't get more deluded, there you go, shouting at the rain as the only person in the country who voted for a 75% Brexit.

To answer your question Zaphod re ' it cannot trundle on indefinitely'
Yes, it can, unless we start ASSERTING our sovereignty instead of
reacting to EU dictates?? We have the right, international law is on our
side over this matter !! Why must we wait for 5•5 yrs before we can
act on this ??
And at the end of 5•5 yrs there is no definite plan for us to get what
is ours as of right either, just another negotiation ??
Sovereignty HAS to be asserted, nobody will make a present of it to
you !! As has become quite evident !!
Our main problem does not lie with the EU, But with the people
of UK that oppose Brexit who no doubt have their reasons for their
stance ??
Unfortunately for them, they were in the minority whenever the public
were allowed to vote !!
Whilst l think Lord Frost could possibly bring about the changes you speak of, he is a voice in the wilderness that is the Tory party and he
will soon be replaced or forced to resign just like all the other
brexit ministers that were appointed earlier ??

Donkeyman! 👎👎👎

Bless your little cotton socks with your puerile determination to persuade others that nobody else has the same views as me even when they're here in this very thread!
In the link in your quote too, in fact.
You are deliberately completely misrepresenting what I say and what my opinions are when anybody can see for themselves right here.


Keep up the infantile insults too when the sensible amongst us grew out of such playground tactics before entering senior school and you're stuck there; I'm only surprised that you didn't add a "Yah boo!" for good measure.
That would fit admirably with your abilities to debate.


You really do not "get" that opinion is just that, do you?
Or that nobody but you cares?
You cannot even substantiate your frankly crazy claims; where does "Ben Habib, Richard Tice, Nigel Farage, the Express, FFL, 12000 fishermen and hundreds of thousands of people in the fishing and related industry" talk about either The Reform Party or the UK doing well post-Brexit which is what my post that you include is talking about?
They don't.
But you somehow think that it's related to my post which you quote?
If that is the case then you're in need of the sort of help which this forum can never give you.

Well watch out fella because there's more postivity about Brexit that you won't believe to come, like this from Douglas Ross who admits that he was a "reluctant remainer" at that!

“This generation are already seeing the benefit of Brexit.

“The 50,000 people employed directly or indirectly in the Scottish whisky industry are celebrating today because they can see these tariffs being suspended, and young people here in Scotland and right across the UK are seeing the benefits of our vaccination programme, which isn’t being replicated in Europe, and that will see our freedoms being returned far quicker.

"We are already seeing the benefits of being an independent country outside the EU.”
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...brexit-3155772


But he, I and the large proportion and increasing of the British public who say Boris & the government will get their vote are wrong and a faceless keyboard warrior with his head up a fishy bottom is right in the world according to Bread because we aren't spluttering over a few fish that we don't eat and can't sell?
There's your delusion.

I usually scroll on past, for obvious reasons, but I thought just for once I'd go to the trouble of copying and pasting just a few of the words I've just seen.

peurile (sic) determination
Keep up the infantile insults
your frankly crazy claims
a faceless keyboard warrior with his head up a fishy bottom
some of the other guff in here was delusional
making yourselves look worse than daft

I'm not surprised that most people don't participate.

Perhaps he has Tourette's.

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Instead of whinging and thinking up more malicious comments after finding that you're left up the creek without a paddle because the party you hoped would win seats stands about as much chance of doing so as The Monster Raving Loony Party does, you might try looking at the bigger picture by pulling your eyes and thoughts away from fish and a bloke called Nigel.


"Britain is set for a brighter economic future and the EU can't bear it"


"A malignant seed of jealousy towards the United Kingdom is growing in continental Europe and it isn’t hard to understand why.

Britain is on course to outperform the EU in the immediate post-Brexit period and the contrast in our fortunes is going to become more and more obvious in the second half of this year.

Boris Johnson may be getting berated for refusing to increase the pace of his tortoise-like trudge out of lockdown, but compared to the EU club that the UK has left behind we are strapped to rocket boosters and sporting go-faster stripes.

Don’t just take my word for it, it is also the verdict of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which has just upgraded our growth forecast for this year by almost a full percentage point. Though the OECD expects all developed economies to benefit from a vaccine effect, its latest bulletin this week will come as a dagger to the heart of Brussels."

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