14-10-2017, 08:54 AM
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Re: Brexit Talks New Agenda.
Originally Posted by Tartlet
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The EU can’t force any member state to hold referendums or to repeat referendums. Only the government of a country can invoke a referendum. In the case of the Irish Treaty of Lisbon issue, the second vote was based on slightly different proposals and produced the result desired by the Irish government.
In the unlikely event that we have a second Brexit referendum, it will be because the UK government wills it.
I'm sure it was the Irish government that insisted on repeat referenda, but who persuaded them to do so?
The Irish government wanted to remain; the EU wanted them to remain: it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to work that out.
14-10-2017, 10:51 AM
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Re: Brexit Talks New Agenda.
Originally Posted by Tartlet
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The poll is from YouGov. The poll results are the same whichever newspaper or news outlet reports them. (It’s a bit old hat now and a lot of a yawn to use the term Grauniad)
14-10-2017, 11:11 AM
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Re: Brexit Talks New Agenda.
Ireland didn't have a referendum on leaving the EU but to amend Ireland's constitution so that they could accept the treaty. The Irish population voted against because they were not happy with some of the terms. The EU amended the treaty. The Irish then had a second referendum following changes to the treaty.How is this in any way similar to our situation?
14-10-2017, 12:22 PM
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Re: Brexit Talks New Agenda.
Originally Posted by JBR
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What goes on behind closed doors is anybody's guess.I'm sure it was the Irish government that insisted on repeat referenda, but who persuaded them to do so?
The Irish government wanted to remain; the EU wanted them to remain: it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to work that out.
Sometimes I wonder whether people ever read below the headlines which are often misleading because they're phrased to be sensationalist.
Edited to say that I've just noticed that Anniesland has made the same point.
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