Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

Dunno about the UK but here in Aus I know for a fact that moderate Muslims very, very frequently DO come out and condemn terrorism and other anti-social acts by radicals.

UNFORTUNATELY ... only a few of their statements are reported.

Not sure why - but journalists and/or media managers seem reluctant to provide coverage when moderates speak out loud and long against the 'nasties'.
So the public assumes it is not happening.

Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

Well I've heard it all now - although probably not
That's a fine way to carry on, not reporting such a move by the Muslims, that's what we need to hear. The press have a lot to answer for - Ejits !

Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

Yes happens here too - a lot ! They actually seek out Mr Chowdry and his friends and ignore the people condemning the violence.

Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

...that is so Julie and you only have to look at the number of anti muslim threads started on this forum to see that kind of thing in action some with very old videos dragged up from who knows where..

Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

Think at least for the last year the Main stream media have been ignoring Chowdry

Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

Oh how very, very true !!!

Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

They can only participate where welcome IMO, I have many times said integrate but looking at how unwelcoming many people are I can see why they retreat into themselves.

Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

It's a good point and the difference in culture and attitude is huge. The problem is that when 2 cultures which are so different come together there, the differences are all we see.

From a religious aspect there is a big difference in that religion is a part of daily life which affects all aspects of your life if you are a practicing Muslim whereas religion is definitely not a part of everyday life for the average person in the UK.
The religious rules mean a completely different attitude which is much more conservative and affect food, dress etc.

The way people here in the Uk and the west generally, and especially young people have so much freedom in regards to clothes, drinking alcohol, sex etc is seen as completely alien to the culture and religious beliefs and I think that people are frightened of their children being influenced by it.
In some ways what is seen as a decadent lifestyle is a driving force for the more extreme version of their religion being increasingly practiced.

So integration to the point that would be acceptable to us would be seen as a complete loss of identity and religious values to them, it's a complex problem.

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Very good points Anita - years ago we may have fared better on both sides with the changes, I have serious doubts now ........

Re: Muslims fighting back, 'Not in my name'

There is certainly a big difference when comparing faiths, but I wonder just how much this difference can be explained by the perception of the christian faith. Although I'm not a regular church-goer, I do believe in good and evil.......good being practised by christians and evil by the devil. So in a way, if you believe in good rather than evil, you are actually practicing christian beliefs in your every day life. The most we may outwardly show is a small cross on a chain, so not particularly obvious!

Returning to the question of integration and the British way of life - I really believe we should be encouraging and indeed enforcing some aspects of integration.