02-11-2017, 03:59 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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When have I ever said that?
02-11-2017, 04:01 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiLabour won a vote last night requiring the Government to publish it's impact papers on different parts of the economy.
The Government has been refusing to release them on the grounds that they would weaken our negotiating position.
I am not sure about this, it would be nice to see them, but I would not like our negotiations to be compromised.
02-11-2017, 04:12 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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We have a right to see them. As was said by Ian Dale (i think) the other day, the EU have their own set from their own scoping. It's not likely to hold any surprises for negotiators.
The EU will undoubtedly have their own papers, but they are not releasing theirs.
02-11-2017, 04:34 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
We may have a right but that doesn't mean it's a good idea, I don't get this idea we have to micromanage the negotiations, we IMO need to let them get on with it and allow them to keep their cards as close as they want to their chests. Eu aren't consulting all people across Europe what is being said of what papers they have in evidence, it would be crazy to expect our side to reveal it all.02-11-2017, 04:36 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You deflected the question entirely. Fact is that pressure on people to vote Brexit was driven in part by rich speculators who made a packet. Nobody is interested in addressing that issue. They don't care about what happens to the country. It's all a con.
As for caring for the country some IMO do they care a lot about it. Some don't they are doing it for themselves that's true. But a blanket idea they all think one way is wrong IMO
02-11-2017, 05:19 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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We may have a right but that doesn't mean it's a good idea, I don't get this idea we have to micromanage the negotiations, we IMO need to let them get on with it and allow them to keep their cards as close as they want to their chests. Eu aren't consulting all people across Europe what is being said of what papers they have in evidence, it would be crazy to expect our side to reveal it all.
In terms of papers the EU have Daly was referring to the same analysis as we have. He assumed they had carried out a similar exercise on what brexit means for british industry etc. I don't think member states have asked them to reveal what they have but its not like a voting public. We have a right as voters to see this.
02-11-2017, 05:55 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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We are the ones initiating Brexit with no plan. Voters have a right to see what implications that has and these papers should be public property. The Eu haven't voted for this and had no choice so they are not in the same position. We are not equals. In terms of papers the EU have Daly was referring to the same analysis as we have. He assumed they had carried out a similar exercise on what brexit means for british industry etc. I don't think member states have asked them to reveal what they have but its not like a voting public. We have a right as voters to see this.
02-11-2017, 06:00 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiLabour won a vote last night requiring the Government to publish it's impact papers on different parts of the economy.
The Government has been refusing to release them on the grounds that they would weaken our negotiating position.
I am not sure about this, it would be nice to see them, but I would not like our negotiations to be compromised.
02-11-2017, 06:08 PM
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Re: Brexit, The Lies.
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You deflected the question entirely. Fact is that pressure on people to vote Brexit was driven in part by rich speculators who made a packet.
I was led to believe that big businessmen were largely set against Brexit for some reason. Perhaps something to do with cheap labour.
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