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Originally Posted by Purwell ->
Shame on people like you who pretend there is no need for food banks, get out in the real World and see what is happening in this country.
Appalling statement. No-one said there was no need.
I simply explained what foodbanks actually were, a TEMPORARY source of free food for those in an EMERGENCY situation.

Your need to totally invent stuff and misquote people is quite staggeringly pathetic.
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14-09-2017, 08:55 PM
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You know, I read the title and looked at the name of the poster and instantly knew exactly who would be the recipient of his rantings!

Joe, you are as much of a cracked record as the fish woman.
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14-09-2017, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruv ->
Serious question.........................why is there a need for emergency food supplies in a modern country with a social security safety net ?
Because emergencies happen !

The main causes for people being referred to a foodbank according to Trussel Trust include the following:

Low Income (26,45%)
Benefit Delays (26.01%)
Benefit Changes (16.65%)
Other (8.98%)
Debt (7.78%)
Homeless (5.43%)
Sickness / Ill Health (2.89%)
No recourse to public funds (2.26%)
Domestic Abuse (1.43%)
Delayed Wages (0.97%)

So for example Benefit Delays. A perfectly normal person, with no problems or issues is due to receive benefits, but the benefits system has a back log and it is taking maybe 2 weeks before the case is processed and the person receives the cash. Meanwhile he/she has no money and is stuck. The foodbank helps them span the gap. A TEMPORARY EMERGENCY.

Take another one. Homelessness. A person with say drinking or drug issues has been living on the street but has engaged with the various support agencies in their city. They have helped him/her find accommodation in one of many places that provide it but he/she needs some food to get them up and running.

Another, Domestic Abuse. A woman has been beaten and abused by her husband and has been forced to get out of the house one way or another. She has engaged with one of the support agencies in the city who have found her temporary accommodation and they issue her a food voucher so she can get some parcels from the foodbank during this TEMPORARY EMERGENCY situation.


There are a great many scenarios that can play out.

What we DO NOT HAVE though are millions of people queuing up every day at foodbanks for their permanent source of food.

That is how duplicitous politicians try to present it but it is totally untrue.

People HAVE to be referred to foodbanks and they only get given a FINITE amount of food, typically a few days worth. After that they are refused further food parcels.

The entire ethos is that the foodbanks are purely there to help with temporary emergencies and if a person needs more food than their allotted few days worth then it is indicative of a deeper problem and so they are sent back to the authority body that originally referred them who then has to resolve the underlying problem by sending the person to the appropriate place.

There is huge misconception about foodbanks and it is being perpetrated by fraudulent politicians looking to score political points. Typically shallow socialist con merchants!
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14-09-2017, 09:06 PM
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Thank you a very informative post Realist.
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14-09-2017, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Thank you a very informative post Realist.
Welcome.

I only know this because:

1. I volunteer weekly for a city centre support foundation that helps street drinkers, homeless people and people with substance abuse issues. So I get to see a lot of the problem demographics and interact with them.

2. I was in the process of actually setting up a new foodbank and in preparation for that visited a number of existing foodbanks to see how they operate.

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14-09-2017, 09:31 PM
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You sure?
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14-09-2017, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruv ->
Serious question.........................why is there a need for emergency food supplies in a modern country with a social security safety net ?
While realist is correct another thing that jrm said made me think even he realises benefits are too low to really live on. If you listen to his speech that's exactly what he said. If average benefit is £361 a month he's absolutely right too.
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14-09-2017, 09:40 PM
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There's a petition in JRM's constituency demanding he resigns, not happy bunnies in BANES. Almost 5,000 signatures in 1 week.
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14-09-2017, 09:43 PM
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There's a petition in JRM's constituency demanding he resigns, not happy bunnies in BANES.
Then they're absolute fools intent on shooting themselves in the foot.
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I'll tell them you said that, hang on I'll shout out the window!
 
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