The biggest problem with Soft Brexit is that it's not attainable

Whatever views you hold, this is an interesting article.


https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/eu...100846943.html

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Hi

I think this link may work better.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/bi...164052679.html

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Thank you swimfeeders.

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It's a highly biased pro-leave article and originally published in the Telegraph. Both Norway and Switzerland are not members of the EU but have access to the single market. It's reading a great deal into what was not written on the ballot paper. But that's the mythical brexit beast that political factions have created and like I said on another thread, if you say it enough people believe it's true.

Definining "soft" brexit is just as difficult as defining hard brexit. There are many definitions. Just as "Brexit" means many different things to different people. What we will end up with is a hybrid based on many different pressures from business, scientific, cultural, political, economic, security etc. factions. It will be a hybrid of whatever people on both sides imagine will happen. What's clear is that we still have no idea what we are doing and that the government is deeply divided.

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That article is spot on.

There is Brexit and there is a Fudge.

Those are the two choices.

Brexit gives us a bright future and opportunity.

Fudge enslaves us to the EU with no voice and a huge financial burden.

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Hear Hear Moscow.
Hear hear.
You have that spot on mate.

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I have no problem with a Hard Brexit.

What I have a problem with is a Hard Brexit with nothing in place to collect WTO Tariffs, no Immigration System or Officers to enforce it and in particular no Trade Negotiators to get new Trade Deals.

Liam Fox, one of the most Pro Brexit Ministers and in charge of Trade Deals has stated he is not in a position to negotiate new deals due to a shortage of specialist staff.

They have failed to employ enough because they do not want to work for us because they have been offered more money to stay where they are.

If the Gung Ho Hard Brexiteers on here want us to just leave in March 2019 then so be it.

You must accept that your Pensions should be cut, not increased, in order to balance the books.

I am quite happy to have my Pension cut by 20%.

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I doubt those pensioners who already struggle and who are afraid to have their heating on would be happy to have a 20% cut in their pensions.

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Gung Ho?
I don't think any of us on here are that Swims. However, many are getting fed up with being virtually blackmailed by the unelected up their own backsides Eurocrats.

I've said it many times, the issue is, we are governed by spineless idiots.

I'm glad you are fine with having your pension cut - many already find themselves in the situation of "heat or eat" in the winter, so I doubt it would please them very much.

Pensions etc would not need to be cut if existing services were managed properly. Most of the so called managers / executives in this country are not fit to manage a piss up in a brewery - they are bloody clueless quite frankly.

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I agree with a lot of what you say fender.

The problem being that our Politicians and Captains of Industry are not going to change overnight are they?

If our Politicians were any good they would have pulled their finger out as soon as the referendum had finished and got things on the go.

They didn't, so now we are having to ask for and pay for a Transition Period, which offends the Northerner in me.

If we just leave on 31st March 2019 we will be leaving with not enough Trade Negotiators to get new Trade Deals, Liam Fox has admitted that, no way of collecting the tariffs from the EU and no way of controlling EU Immigration.

In other words, a complete mess.

The Government know this, which is why they are asking for a 2 or 3 year Transition Deal and offering to pay for it with our money.

They could have found the money we needed to get things ready but simply cutting the Overseas Aid Budget, which we are borrowing to pay or even something as basic as charging the 3 million or so Immigrants we have here for using the NHS, again something we are still not doing.

Basically we are starting a new business, without any staff, no means of collecting the money owed to us and promising not to undercut our main rival to drum up new business.

This not a good idea.