10-02-2017, 10:08 PM
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Re: Euratom
Originally Posted by PhilipM
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Well I hope these various fudges are successful but cannot stop thinking that none of this would be needed if Britain had not decided to shoot itself in the foot with the Brexit referendum which should never have happened in the first place. Poorly educated people were asked to make a binary choice on an extremely complicated issue and they voted for seeing less Polish plumbers in their pub without realising the huge economic chaos and vast administrative problems that leaving the EU would bring. The less bright just felt that they wanted to defy the elite that was advising them to vote remain and instead sent the country to Hell in a Handcart in doing so!
My decision to exit the EU had nothing to do with Polish Plumbers - who incidentally I have the greatest respect for - but not apparently for pompous, smug, overbearing Ex Doctors who believe they are Gods gift to knowledge.
10-02-2017, 10:11 PM
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Re: Euratom
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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I wouldn't expect less from an ex Doctor who think they are the only people in Britain who can think....Most Doctors I know can't even put a plug on.My decision to exit the EU had nothing to do with Polish Plumbers - who incidentally I have the greatest respect for - but not apparently for pompous, smug, overbearing Ex Doctors who believe they are Gods gift to knowledge.
10-02-2017, 10:15 PM
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Re: Euratom
Originally Posted by PhilipM
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Well I hope these various fudges are successful but cannot stop thinking that none of this would be needed if Britain had not decided to shoot itself in the foot with the Brexit referendum which should never have happened in the first place. Poorly educated people were asked to make a binary choice on an extremely complicated issue and they voted for seeing less Polish plumbers in their pub without realising the huge economic chaos and vast administrative problems that leaving the EU would bring. The less bright just felt that they wanted to defy the elite that was advising them to vote remain and instead sent the country to Hell in a Handcart in doing so!
10-02-2017, 10:39 PM
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Re: Euratom
Originally Posted by PhilipM
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Well knowing this place I didn't expect agreement but felt I should say what I think!
10-02-2017, 11:08 PM
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Re: Euratom
Originally Posted by PhilipM
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Poorly educated people were asked to make a binary choice on an extremely complicated issue and they voted for seeing less Polish plumbers in their pub without realising the huge economic chaos and vast administrative problems that leaving the EU would bring. The less bright just felt that they wanted to defy the elite that was advising them to vote remain and instead sent the country to Hell in a Handcart in doing so!
You've made me feel reet unsnotor now because I didn't even vote. I couldn't make up me mind. I never realised plumbers were polish cos my plumber isn't. That must be what obnubilated it for me .. .. and confuscation over the binary thing. 
11-02-2017, 12:06 AM
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Re: Euratom
Originally Posted by PhilipM
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Well knowing this place I didn't expect agreement but felt I should say what I think!
"Poorly educated people...
"The less bright just felt that they wanted to defy the elite that was advising them to vote remain"
I don't consider myself 'poorly educated' or 'less bright' and I voted for Brexit.
I'm sure that there were many 'well educated' and 'very bright' people who also voted in favour of leaving.
Even if that were not the case, are you suggesting that only the most intelligent people in this country should have had a vote on the matter? I wouldn't describe that as a democracy.
You are also suggesting that leaving the EU is not only wrong, but a stupid decision. Why? Any evidence, or just conjecture?
Don't you think it would be better to wait a few years and see whether or not it was a wise move? All that has happened so far would indicate that it was. Neither have any of the many scare stories come to pass yet.
11-02-2017, 04:44 PM
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Re: Euratom
HiA couple of points.
I voted for Brexit, My choice, my decision.
It was not an east decision, I thought long and hard about it, but to my mind it was the only rational decision.
What I did not vote for is sheer stupidity.
I expected a modicum of Common Sense for us to get out at the minimum possible cost to ourselves.
That was the object of the exercise, it was not to commit Financial Suicide.
The decision to leave Euratom is ours and ours alone, a stupid decision.
I cannot agree with Phillip. we are not sheepies who voted to leave.
He does however have a very valid point about leaving the EU Medical Verification and Licensing System, it is another thong which will cost us Billions.
The object of the exercise is to leave, in a very pragmatic and cost effective manner.
It is not to leave under absolutely stupid conditions which will give power and money to Merkel and Juncker.
That is totally wrong, the object of leaving is to make sure that we have a better future and not be continually ripped off.
Unfortunately our Politicians do not seem up to the game, more interested in themselves than the rest of us.
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