16-07-2018, 05:36 PM
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Re: Brexit and the EU
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiIt is being reported that May has backed down and accepted the amendments.
https://news.sky.com/story/live-vict...-plan-11438505
If this is the case it is back to square one.
Perhaps she's losing her marbles!
17-07-2018, 09:48 AM
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This needs no further comment from me!!!https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...utions-britain
19-07-2018, 07:01 PM
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It would appear that it would be in the interests of the EU to come to a deal over Brexit.https://www.theguardian.com/business...ries-warns-imf
19-07-2018, 08:14 PM
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Re: Brexit and the EU
Originally Posted by Tregonsee
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It would appear that it would be in the interests of the EU to come to a deal over Brexit.https://www.theguardian.com/business...ries-warns-imf
21-07-2018, 12:41 PM
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So much for the 'Chequers' weekend deal on Brexit. For something which took hours of discussion to cobble together, was destroyed in Bruxelles in just 8 minutes.https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8456806.html
21-07-2018, 01:46 PM
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Re: Brexit and the EU
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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So much for the 'Chequers' weekend deal on Brexit. For something which took hours of discussion to cobble together, was destroyed in Bruxelles in just 8 minutes. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8456806.html
As any trades unionist will tell you, a simple negotiating tool is to dismiss a set of proposals and say come back with something else.
Hoping that the next lot are a softer option.
Eventually they will have to talk sensibly.
21-07-2018, 03:49 PM
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Re: Brexit and the EU
Originally Posted by Tregonsee
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As any trades unionist will tell you, a simple negotiating tool is to dismiss a set of proposals and say come back with something else.Hoping that the next lot are a softer option.
Eventually they will have to talk sensibly.
21-07-2018, 11:39 PM
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Re: Brexit and the EU
Originally Posted by JBR
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No. Hopefully, we shall just walk away. It is looking more and more likely.
22-07-2018, 12:16 AM
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Re: Brexit and the EU
Originally Posted by Realist
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Here's hoping. No-one is going to take BrExit seriously until we have actually left, formally and irreversibly. So a "no deal" walk away is now necessary imho.
Barmier, being French, is as proud a peacock and thinks he has got us on the run (just like a certain Napoleon did).
When we have left, successfully trading with the world, he and others like him will be singing a different tune.
I'll go a step further and say that after Brexit, assuming that the EU dictators still refuse to give us any trade deals, we'll find individual EU countries making their own offers. German car manufacturers, for example, will certainly not throw away the opportunity to continue to sell all those BMWs, Audis, VWs, etc. that seem to fill our roads!
Then of course, like it or not, there will still be EU nations wishing to avail themselves of our financial experts and universities (and I know from personal experience that all the foreign interest doesn't centre only around Oxbridge!)
22-07-2018, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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I'm convinced that will be the case.Barmier, being French, is as proud a peacock and thinks he has got us on the run (just like a certain Napoleon did).
When we have left, successfully trading with the world, he and others like him will be singing a different tune.
I'll go a step further and say that after Brexit, assuming that the EU dictators still refuse to give us any trade deals, we'll find individual EU countries making their own offers. German car manufacturers, for example, will certainly not throw away the opportunity to continue to sell all those BMWs, Audis, VWs, etc. that seem to fill our roads!
Then of course, like it or not, there will still be EU nations wishing to avail themselves of our financial experts and universities (and I know from personal experience that all the foreign interest doesn't centre only around Oxbridge!)
Barnier is not determining the EU negotiating stance, the stance is determined by the EU Member States .
Barnier could be replaced anytime, but unless and until the EU Member States change their minds, the situation will remain the same.
The EU have not refused to offer a deal, they have already offered a standard WTO Free Trade Deal.
We have refused it, we want more.
The car thing works both ways, the foreign car manufacturers based in the UK will not want their cars subject to Tariffs in the same way the German car manufacturers will not.
They can just move to the EU to protect their profits.
Now that the EU has signed the free Trade Deal with Japan, Honda and Toyota could simply move back to Japan.
I simply do not understand the No Deal argument.
What has been offered is what we will be hoping to get with the rest of the world.
Take it and leave and get on with life outside the EU.
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