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13-06-2018, 01:26 PM
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Re: Should smoking be banned outside?

Whew ... I don't own a car or drive one and I've never been in an aeroplane. Perhaps it'll offset my sins as a smoker
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13-06-2018, 01:33 PM
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Re: Should smoking be banned outside?

Originally Posted by Ripple ->
How many of you smokers own or drive a car there you go a double whammy
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That is a very fair point Ripple.

Smoking is get less and less by the year.

What I do not understand is the aggression towards those who vape.
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13-06-2018, 04:55 PM
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Oh dear, yet another smokers bashing thread

I wasn't going to comment as the holier than thou comments from the people who inhabit the lofty heights of the moral high ground don't interest me.

But I wanted to let Morticia know she's not alone and I agree with everything she's said.

Those smokers amongst us with an ounce of integrity don't do it round people who don't want our second hand smoke. We can't be held responsible for the actions of less considerate smokers. We are not thick, we know what we're doing and no amount of insults is going to make us stop. We are aware of the health implications but we still choose to smoke. That is up to us, not anybody else.

I personally don't smoke outside of my own property and I don't even smoke in the garden if next door's kids are about as I am very aware I would be setting a bad example.

As for vapers....I also don't understand why they're getting such a hard time, at least they're trying to stop.
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13-06-2018, 06:57 PM
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Re: Should smoking be banned outside?

It's not the moral high ground it's common sense.
Smoke and it will kill you earlier than you might think.
It will impair your health .
It is offensive and dangerous to others .
Things change we don't spit in the streets or pubs anymore .
We don't use asbestos to roof our garages .
Time to ditch smoking .
It's time is past .
It's not cool .
It's an addiction
One that controls the smoker hence the need to make excuses for still being addicted .
What smoker would not be better off without it ?
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13-06-2018, 07:15 PM
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Re: Should smoking be banned outside?

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
It's not the moral high ground it's common sense.
Smoke and it will kill you earlier than you might think.
It will impair your health .
It is offensive and dangerous to others .
Things change we don't spit in the streets or pubs anymore .
We don't use asbestos to roof our garages .
Time to ditch smoking .
It's time is past .
It's not cool .
It's an addiction
One that controls the smoker hence the need to make excuses for still being addicted .
What smoker would not be better off without it ?
Thank you Doctor.... cough..cough!
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13-06-2018, 07:23 PM
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Re: Should smoking be banned outside?

Desperation creeping in?
References to asbestos in garages? But no acknowledgment that car pollution is one of the main dangers to the planet? If you're going to go eco-friendly and 'Green' do it properly.
Ironically .. all are natural products, courtesy of Mother Earth.
Asbestos. Tobacco. Oil.
Perhaps Mother Earth is going to have the last laugh. Mutual destruction. MAD.

Hey ..no! Let's focus on the industrial chimney stacks on smoker's heads. Pitiful.

Smoking is an addiction. It's unhealthy. That's a fact.
So is obesity. Drinking too much. Food additives. Chemicals in household products. Car exhaust.

Lecturing to the mainly converted is pointless if it's just to trash them and call them thick as bricks.
It's like The Witchfinder General Mathew Hopkins rolling up a decade after the fad for witch trials was over.
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13-06-2018, 07:45 PM
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Re: Should smoking be banned outside?

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Really the excuses put forward for deliberately inflicting harm on others for passive smoking .
Passive smoking has no benefit to humanity whatsoever .
Whereas cars etc are a necessary evil they do at least take us from A to B .
Smoking has no benefits unless you have shares in Imperial Tobbaco .
What a ridiculous argument. Don't get hysterical. Deliberately inflicting harm on others ? That's ridiculous.

There is absolutely no proof that an occasional wiff of tobacco ever harmed anyone. When there is proof positive that anyone died 30 years later, after breathing in a slight aroma of a single incident of tobacco smoke, then you can polish your halo, and preach to the rest of us.

No benefits from smoking ? Why does that matter ? Does society benefit from women wearing perfume ? No ! Of course not. Yet women do it in spite of the fact that perfume gives me, and some others, violent headaches.
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13-06-2018, 07:56 PM
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Re: Should smoking be banned outside?

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Some of the most vitriolic anti smokers locally drive the kids to school less than a mile and leave their huge 4x4s running whilst they have a chat with their friends.

That causes far more pollution that a fag outside.

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
I have never seen this at all .

You haven't?

It happens in towns and cities up and down the country
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13-06-2018, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddy ->
In the uk too many people will not rent to smokers .
And believe it or not smokers also drink and are fat too!
Who wants their house stinking of cigarettes?
Smokers are without doubt the most selfish inconsiderate bunch never caring where their filthy smoke goes .
In ones hair on ones clothes and even over their own children.
And it a fact smokers smell .
They may not realise it but it's a fact .
And it does nothing for the teeth yuk !
Go out side any hospital and its festooned with cigarette butts
generally under the sign which say non smoking area .
Why should none smokers have to put up with this dirty habit ?
Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Not as sad as those who want to end their lives by puffing away on cancer sticks while polluting the air with their noxious smoke.
Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Quite .
Besides , it's so very common .
Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Well if people want to self harm that is their business .
Just don't force it on to other innocent people.
Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Of course we are superior.
We are not so dumb as to stick cancer sticks in our mouths and puff poison down our lungs .
Despite evidence of years that smoking is serious bad for your health and can kill you .
Despite the fact that it costs an arm and a leg at he same time.
They must all be as thick as bricks .
Originally Posted by Muddy ->
Really the excuses put forward for deliberately inflicting harm on others for passive smoking .
Passive smoking has no benefit to humanity whatsoever .
Whereas cars etc are a necessary evil they do at least take us from A to B .
Smoking has no benefits unless you have shares in Imperial Tobbaco .

.... So to round up - smokers drink, are fat, selfish, inconsiderate, common, thick as bricks, with a question mark re shares in Imperial Tobacco.


You've said Mr Muddy was a heavy smoker.

Presumably your comments describe Mr Muddy too
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13-06-2018, 08:28 PM
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Re: Should smoking be banned outside?

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

That is a very fair point Ripple.

Smoking is get less and less by the year.

What I do not understand is the aggression towards those who vape.
Just so long as they don't vape anywhere near me Swim.
I mean.
Have you seen some people puffing on them?
They can be like a Steam Train Engine puffing away.!

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