Re: Britain could leave the Bloc and do things better!
Originally Posted by
Moscow
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Being in the EU plays no part in our security.
The EU has no defensive or combat capability.
If anything the meddling of the EU in Ukraine was a major progenitor of the conflict there.
Being a member of Nato is the best security for the UK.
Far from being lonelier, the Salisbury Incident has brought the USA, Germany and France shoulder to shoulder with the UK........
The USA aren't in the EU and we are leaving thereby proving the EU is irrelevant to our security and irrelevant to the security of the other 230 countries on the planet outside the EU.
Your post highlights the ignorance and fantasies many Remainers have regarding the EU. Amazing how easily indoctrinated some, especially the young can be.
To suggest the EU plays no part in the security of the UK is if I may say so just plain wrong and an indication of some misunderstanding of what Britain's relationship with the EU is and how it functions.
NATO is a military alliance which provides the physical muscle to any threat. It acts principally as a deterrent force.
However it's the politics and unanimity between nations with shared or equal interests that prevent conflicts. As an EU members Britain's interests would have been the same as Germany's, France et al.
Here are five crunch points on security and defence for the EU and UK after Brexit. I’ll try to be brief.
1. Data sharing
Sir John Sawers, the former head of MI6, Britain’s overseas intelligence service, said this week that sharing data is “central” to fighting crime and monitoring terror threats.
“We won’t be round the table with our voice, with our weight, stressing the vital importance of these data exchanges to our national security,”
2. Foreign policy - The EU has said no outside country can take part in its foreign policy decision making. Britain will no longer have a seat at the EU’s foreign affairs council or political and security committee.
3. Closer EU defence co-operation - Britain is leaving as the EU launches its latest — and most serious — attempt at forging closer defence ties. All but three of the 28 member states — UK, Denmark and Malta — signed up in December to Permanent Defence Co-operation (Pesco).
4. Industry- The UK wants its companies to be able to access EU-backed defence industrial projects and the new European Defence Fund (EDF). The EU has said that during the transition phase the UK will only be invited to bid for funds from the EDF, which will rise to €1.5bn a year after 2020, on a case-by-case basis
5. UK role in EU defence mission - The EU has said that after next March the UK will no longer take part in the decision making structures of its common security and defence policy. Brussels has also said that Britain will not be able to command joint EU missions.