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18-09-2019, 08:09 PM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
I agree, JBR.

As an aside, I wish our so called "Fellow Brexiteers" would resist the temptation of demeaning & name calling Boris.

He appears to be all we've got, and he seems to be saying what we want to hear. I expect the Remainers to be panic stricken, and ready to hurl their rabid insults towards Boris.

But not us.

We need to get behind him.

If he does let us down we can shout then!

Im with you on that JBR!
Boris is doing what we want so far, in fact l have grown to
actually like him since he took over? And as you say we can
go along with him till he goes back on his word, which by the
way l trust more than our usual promise givers?

Regards Donkeyman!
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19-09-2019, 06:01 AM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Realist ->
We've had our referendum thanks and the result is Leave.

We have now moved onto the problem that we have a government unwilling to honour and respect that result and who are passing bills and actively obstructing the entire BrExit process.

This is a separate issue.

To deal with it we need a General Election so the people can vote out these traitors and put in place a parliament willing to serve the people not the EU.
A binding referendum would solve all of your problems, a general election may not as we could be in the same position as we are now

Do you now not believe that leave would win a binding referendum now that there is more clarity on the facts?
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19-09-2019, 06:18 AM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
A binding referendum would solve all of your problems, a general election may not as we could be in the same position as we are now

Do you now not believe that leave would win a binding referendum now that there is more clarity on the facts?
Hi

We have had a Referendum.

Advisory or Binding is smoke and mirrors.

Parliament could have ignored it, they choose not to, end of story.

Parliament voted to invoke Article 50 and in doing so accepted the result of the Referendum.
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19-09-2019, 06:46 AM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

We have had a Referendum.

Advisory or Binding is smoke and mirrors.

Parliament could have ignored it, they choose not to, end of story.

Parliament voted to invoke Article 50 and in doing so accepted the result of the Referendum.
Unfortunately it’s not “end of story” as you put it as because it was not binding it can still be revoked. If it was binding the Lib Dem’s would not be able to stand on that ticket

It is therefore not smoke and mirrors but more likely the thosd who voted leave no longer think they could command a majority

A binding referendum would remove any impasse
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19-09-2019, 08:10 AM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
Unfortunately it’s not “end of story” as you put it as because it was not binding it can still be revoked. If it was binding the Lib Dem’s would not be able to stand on that ticket

It is therefore not smoke and mirrors but more likely the thosd who voted leave no longer think they could command a majority

A binding referendum would remove any impasse

The lib dems need to win an election first. That just isn't going to happen.
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19-09-2019, 09:18 AM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
Unfortunately it’s not “end of story” as you put it as because it was not binding it can still be revoked. If it was binding the Lib Dem’s would not be able to stand on that ticket

It is therefore not smoke and mirrors but more likely the thosd who voted leave no longer think they could command a majority

A binding referendum would remove any impasse
We all know that the results of Referrenda are not acted upon unless they are tilted towards Remain.

No point in doing it all again to start another 3 year debate.
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19-09-2019, 11:57 AM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Bread ->
The lib dems need to win an election first. That just isn't going to happen.
That may be the case but the principle still stands and notwithstanding what the Lib Dem’s are saying now there is the possibility of them forming a coalition government
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19-09-2019, 12:37 PM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
That may be the case but the principle still stands and notwithstanding what the Lib Dem’s are saying now there is the possibility of them forming a coalition government

Who with ?

They're 12 points behind
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19-09-2019, 12:59 PM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
That may be the case but the principle still stands and notwithstanding what the Lib Dem’s are saying now there is the possibility of them forming a coalition government
In theory, they only need to move in parliament to revoke article 50. Any mp with a heart for his country, and the guts to act on it, would vote in favour, regardkess his affiliation. If that is impossible, that just goes to show the limitations of your system.
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19-09-2019, 01:04 PM
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Re: Boris's Joker Card?

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
A binding referendum would solve all of your problems, a general election may not as we could be in the same position as we are now

Do you now not believe that leave would win a binding referendum now that there is more clarity on the facts?
A binding referendum would do no such thing unless you changed the question. Do you really think people thought the referendum didn't matter and it was "just for fun" when the biggest turn out of people ever, turned out to vote on EU membership ?

You still seem to think 17.4 million people who voted leave were stupid and ignorant and didn't know what they voted for, but somehow, you do. However, every time I've ask you what you voted for, you can't tell me....

The referendum wasn't a survey it was a decision given to the people. If you still don't understand that, you have bigger problems than I thought.

Leave would win by a country mile in a second referendum - provided the question was asked. Why do you think the Lib Dems have chickened out over holding one and instead gone straight to the answer they want instead of the decision by 17.4 million people.

Don't be fooled by the name Liberal Democrats, they are nothing anywhere close to that. More like lying cheating, disrespectful political hacks that don't care what the people they represent want.
 
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