Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU
Originally Posted by
Banchory
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Unless you are classifying Russia as being a totally European country your data shows The UK as having the highest death toll in Europe
Why are you determined to misrepresent the facts?
We can all see who is trying their darndest to misrepresent the facts, and that is you.
Refuting such deliberate misrepresentations in a full and honest manner takes time so the length of this post is your fault.
As I explained in the earlier post, you seem hellbent upon trying to deceive people who already know better.
Why is that, if you're so sure of your opinions?
Surely if you are right there's no need to try and deceive others?
Russia BTW is at least partially in Europe and is as I'm sure you are aware it is partially in Asia too - but that is irrelevant and is just part of your deliberately being disingenuous.
You're being deliberately distasteful too, in effect attempting gloating over human misery.
Still, distasteful though it is and although I have already pointed out to you the error of your ways I willl reply just so that others understand the depths to which you obviously will stoop just to try and deliberately mislead them.
(It is another display of EU vindictiveness too since you're obviously trying to stand up for the EU, in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are indeed being purely vindictive.)
First this pandemic is not over.
You know this.
So fatalities are increasing.
Where are they increasing at a far greater rate then here?
Yes, in a number of EU countries.
Second who is counted as being a fatality due to Covid-19?
Here it is anybody who for any reason has died within 28 days of being tested for the virus - so if you're run over by the bus; have a heart attack; or commit suicide you're counted as a Covid-related death.
Show us with evidence where else in Europe counts their statistics like we do here in the UK?
They don't.
You know they don't.
Third the countries with the largest populations are almost bound to have the highest figures in pure numbers.
That is misleading.
You know this too but apparently that doesn't matter to you; apparently deceit does.
I tell you what: since you insist upon talking about countries, how about if instead of comparing the whole of the UK we compare just England?
That will be 86,053 fatalities attributed to Covid-19 to 24th March in England; you can add another 350 for this week (*1), give or take until the official figures are released if you want.
Italy by comparison as of yesterday has 107,636 and France has 94,465.
Germany BTW that last year thought it had escaped the worst is at 76,404 and rising at around twice our rate so far.
(Would you rather see Scotland's? In comparison to Slovakia maybe since the population is about the same size? Have a look and educate yourself.
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So how about we compare the UK's statistics to the whole of EU since the UK is a union of four countries, if you want to try that argument?
No?
Whyever not?
The best way as I suspect you know already (though as said, counting methodolgy means there really is no good way) is to compare fatalities per million of population and I have already shown you that the UK overall is
not the highest here, and that even more are likely to see more deaths than we - despite methodolgy differences.
Now unless you're going to contribute towards the thread rather than deliberately try to deceive I suggest that you cease the approach you're on.
When you can make honest, open arguments you might get more support for yourself just as the EU would if they were not so deliberately vindictive.
Sadly as per usual it is people that suffer.
This time with their lives.
And it's on the other side of the channel that more are paying these consequences at this point in time.
*1
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistic...total-archive/