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02-10-2018, 03:33 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

Originally Posted by weedeek ->
Just back from holiday and thought this thread had run it’s course..... I suspect you know what I mean but here goes. Scotland is a partner in an unequal union, its population is only 8-9% of the total UK population. We are also politically poles apart. Consequently, in a U.K. wide vote, the result (naturally) will be decided by the much larger partner. In this case Scotland voted to remain (almost overwhelmingly) but will leave with the rest as a result of our view being verwhelmed by the votes of the more right wing English shires.
I'm sure I've responded to a similar message before, but here goes.

Like Scotland (and with a similar population), Yorkshire is also a partner in an unequal union. As important as we are, we are outnumbered by the rest of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

However, we Yorkies understand that in practice, Yorkshire, along with the rest of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, are one united nation, called the United Kingdom.

As such, when we make important democratic decisions, like the EU referendum a couple of years ago, the total votes of the nation are counted together to arrive at the final decision.

Sadly, although I consider it very unfair indeed (as Yorkshire people are far superior in all respects to lesser people in the UK), our votes are taken as counting no more than the people of the rest of the UK.

I hope this explanation clears things up.
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02-10-2018, 03:59 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

Originally Posted by JBR ->
I'm sure I've responded to a similar message before, but here goes.

Like Scotland (and with a similar population), Yorkshire is also a partner in an unequal union. As important as we are, we are outnumbered by the rest of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

However, we Yorkies understand that in practice, Yorkshire, along with the rest of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, are one united nation, called the United Kingdom.

As such, when we make important democratic decisions, like the EU referendum a couple of years ago, the total votes of the nation are counted together to arrive at the final decision.

Sadly, although I consider it very unfair indeed (as Yorkshire people are far superior in all respects to lesser people in the UK), our votes are taken as counting no more than the people of the rest of the UK.

I hope this explanation clears things up.
If the region of Yorkshire were to declare UDI you would have my support my friend! 👍😁
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02-10-2018, 04:38 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

Originally Posted by weedeek ->
If the region of Yorkshire were to declare UDI you would have my support my friend! 👍😁
Thank you. We stand together!

Perhaps a better idea still would be to fight for an independent Londonistan! Then the rest of us can get on with things as we'd like.
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02-10-2018, 04:49 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

Originally Posted by weedeek ->
Just back from holiday and thought this thread had run it’s course..... I suspect you know what I mean but here goes. Scotland is a partner in an unequal union, its population is only 8-9% of the total UK population. We are also politically poles apart. Consequently, in a U.K. wide vote, the result (naturally) will be decided by the much larger partner. In this case Scotland voted to remain (almost overwhelmingly) but will leave with the rest as a result of our view being verwhelmed by the votes of the more right wing English shires.
You have to go with the majority vote weedeek. The majority of Scots voted to remain in the UK in the 2014 referendum. I would like to see Nicola Sturgeon out of Bute house but I have to go with the democratic vote.
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02-10-2018, 04:57 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

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You have to go with the majority vote weedeek. The majority of Scots voted to remain in the UK in the 2014 referendum. I would like to see Nicola Sturgeon out of Bute house but I have to go with the democratic vote.
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02-10-2018, 05:00 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

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I find that very demeaning Purwell.

Pray, do tell. how many English Speakers do you have in your house tonight?

I have one, me,

The rest are Polish and Filipino.

They all pay vast amounts of Tax, we are not Xenophobes, just realists.

I voted out for Political reasons, not financial ones.

You keep on with your trips to the Pub, meet your Momentum Friends.

I will just enjoy my Pensions, which I have not spent in the Pub.
I find you very patronising.
I have just as many Polish friends as you have, and several other nationalities too. So kindly keep your unpleasant thoughts to yourself.
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02-10-2018, 06:37 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

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You have to go with the majority vote weedeek. The majority of Scots voted to remain in the UK in the 2014 referendum. I would like to see Nicola Sturgeon out of Bute house but I have to go with the democratic vote.
I’m not disputing the 2014 referendum result, wish it was otherwise but , as you say, it was a democratic vote by the Scottish people and such is life. Doesn’t mean I can’t voice my continued believe in independence though. TBH I can’t see Scotland gain its independence for many a long year if ever! Don’t think enough people are interested in current politics and who can blame them! Maybe when Brexit hits home..,?! Having a rant now! At least we can agree to disagree without resort to slagging each other off.
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02-10-2018, 07:59 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

Originally Posted by JBR ->
I'm sure I've responded to a similar message before, but here goes.

Like Scotland (and with a similar population), Yorkshire is also a partner in an unequal union. As important as we are, we are outnumbered by the rest of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

However, we Yorkies understand that in practice, Yorkshire, along with the rest of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, are one united nation, called the United Kingdom.

As such, when we make important democratic decisions, like the EU referendum a couple of years ago, the total votes of the nation are counted together to arrive at the final decision.

Sadly, although I consider it very unfair indeed (as Yorkshire people are far superior in all respects to lesser people in the UK), our votes are taken as counting no more than the people of the rest of the UK.

I hope this explanation clears things up.
Good shout JBR,

I'm a West Country man and the West Country, incorporating the former Kingdom of Wessex, which is one of the 9 official regions of England and is known as the South West Region for administrative purposes and is the largest of the 9 regions with a population of over 5 million ( as big as Scotland) and guess what........It is an unequal partner in an unequal Union........despite being the most beautiful, most historic and most diverse region with the longest coastline and the best climate.
However, we accept that the sum of the United Kingdom is greater than the constituent parts and humbly accept our status as the most loved region with the nicest people with grace and candour.
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02-10-2018, 08:04 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

Originally Posted by Moscow ->
Good shout JBR,

I'm a West Country man and the West Country, incorporating the former Kingdom of Wessex, which is one of the 9 official regions of England and is known as the South West Region for administrative purposes and is the largest of the 9 regions with a population of over 5 million ( as big as Scotland) and guess what........It is an unequal partner in an unequal Union........despite being the most beautiful, most historic and most diverse region with the longest coastline and the best climate.
However, we accept that the sum of the United Kingdom is greater than the constituent parts and humbly accept our status as the most loved region with the nicest people with grace and candour.
Yes that is the impression I gained whenever we have visited those parts.
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02-10-2018, 11:30 PM
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Re: Scotland, England and the EU

Originally Posted by Moscow ->
Good shout JBR,

I'm a West Country man and the West Country, incorporating the former Kingdom of Wessex, which is one of the 9 official regions of England and is known as the South West Region for administrative purposes and is the largest of the 9 regions with a population of over 5 million ( as big as Scotland) and guess what........It is an unequal partner in an unequal Union........despite being the most beautiful, most historic and most diverse region with the longest coastline and the best climate.
However, we accept that the sum of the United Kingdom is greater than the constituent parts and humbly accept our status as the most loved region with the nicest people with grace and candour.
There’s a world of difference between regions/ counties and a country but you know that. Kingdom of Wessex eh. Just had a horrible vision of Boris in a suit of armour, Jacob as Merlin and Theresa as Guinevere! Shit! Never get to sleep now...😴
 
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