16-12-2013, 01:41 PM
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Re: Unbelievable - Pregnant Woman Killed By Dogs!
Originally Posted by Jazzi
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I went to Battersea Cats and Dogs home a few months ago, and couldn't believe the high number of staffies there.
It isn't fair on the breed either really if they are just going to end up being put down.
It does make you wonder why, if they make such marvellous pets, they end up being put up for rehoming.
16-12-2013, 02:22 PM
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Because possibly people who have less than great dogs see them as a good way to make money, I know someone in our village who has a staffie girl the dog is not the best of it's breed at all, it's a scrawny thing that could start a fight in an empty room, she decided she could make money out of her and let her have pups, 8 pups all taking after their mum, she started off advertising them for £500 each big smile in her face all the first 2 weeks, by week 4 she looked a little less happy and dropped the price to £300, 4 months later she was looking quite worried and was advertising them for £50 each. Last I heard she was giving them away free, and last 2 went to a local rescue.Did she learn a lesson ? Not really her dog seems again to be pregnant and she is sure this time she has the advertising right so it will all go swimmingly well !
16-12-2013, 02:38 PM
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I think with cases like that Julie, theauthorities should either give the dog the snip or remove the dog from her. My son has a neighbour who leaves their German Shepherd puppy out in all weathers, he called the MSPCA and the dog was observed over a week or so (I think) and then the dog was removed from them.16-12-2013, 02:45 PM
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That is so sad to hear Julie. I am not in the least bit fond of staffies (even if they were the most even tempered dog going, I don't find them physically attractive dogs) but I don't like to hear of them being mistreated either. They are still a living entity with emotions and can feel pain and neglect, surely that alone deems they are worthy of being shown compassion by the authorities.
21-12-2013, 10:48 PM
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Where I help with animal care, the security guard is a 2 year Akita. He has a kennel and lives outside, with a rope attached to his collar. He was rescued, apparently, from a bunch of EEs who used to throw rocks at him!He is a friendly dog, once he knows you, BUT...he can be quite boisterous!! Sometimes when I have to get past him I hold my bags out in front of me, (so I can gauge his mood), to come between us because he likes to jump up. Sometimes he'll get to his feet, walk slowly towards me and turn his back, so I can stroke him. When going out, I prefer it when he's lying on the ground, not bothering to get up. At times I have asked the owners to grab his lead while I walk past.
On Friday he seemed fine when I left but he has a problem with 'mouthing'. He grabbed my wrist, and was then growling. I got my wrist free and called for owner's husband, and the dog just sat on the floor, tail wagging furiously. The problem with him, as our mutual friend said before, he does it because he doesn't want you to leave! And yet as I said to the owner's husband as he held the dog back so I could go past, I still don't 100% trust him.
I call out to him before entering the garden, saying things like 'good boy A (using his name), good boy!' and try not to show fear. I just wish his owners could find a way of stopping him jumping up.
He had a very strong grip with his jaws and for a short while my wrist really hurt. So it's easy to understand the damage they can inflict and how powerless a victim could be when under attack.
When our mutual friend visits she shows no fear with him, (and he adores the attention) but she is a current dog owner and used to handling them.
22-12-2013, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jazzi
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Where I help with animal care, the security guard is a 2 year Akita. He has a kennel and lives outside, with a rope attached to his collar. He was rescued, apparently, from a bunch of EEs who used to throw rocks at him! He is a friendly dog, once he knows you, BUT...he can be quite boisterous!! Sometimes when I have to get past him I hold my bags out in front of me, (so I can gauge his mood), to come between us because he likes to jump up. Sometimes he'll get to his feet, walk slowly towards me and turn his back, so I can stroke him. When going out, I prefer it when he's lying on the ground, not bothering to get up. At times I have asked the owners to grab his lead while I walk past.
On Friday he seemed fine when I left but he has a problem with 'mouthing'. He grabbed my wrist, and was then growling. I got my wrist free and called for owner's husband, and the dog just sat on the floor, tail wagging furiously. The problem with him, as our mutual friend said before, he does it because he doesn't want you to leave! And yet as I said to the owner's husband as he held the dog back so I could go past, I still don't 100% trust him.
I call out to him before entering the garden, saying things like 'good boy A (using his name), good boy!' and try not to show fear. I just wish his owners could find a way of stopping him jumping up.
He had a very strong grip with his jaws and for a short while my wrist really hurt. So it's easy to understand the damage they can inflict and how powerless a victim could be when under attack.
When our mutual friend visits she shows no fear with him, (and he adores the attention) but she is a current dog owner and used to handling them.
I think you're right to be concerned about the mouthing Jazzi, and he should definitely be taught not to do that. However, strangely enough, I used to have a GSD who did exactly the same sometimes, but never to anyone else but me. In his case it was only ever done affection though. For example, if I had been talking to him, or sitting with him, then went to walk away, he would very gently reach out and hold my wrist and try to pull me back to him again, thumping his tail as he did. I adored that dog, and I know the feeling was mutual, he was my shadow in everything I did. It damn near destroyed me when he died. If you look at my profile pics, this most loving boy is the GSD laying in the snow.
22-12-2013, 12:24 AM
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I'm feel slightly alarmed by your posting, i.e "lives outside, with a rope attached to his collar" in an animal care centre!!! Doesn't sounds that caring to me!I have never been afraid of a dog in my life and consider myself quite adept at reading dog body language. Just from what you say he does sound boisterous and playful but given his early life it sounds like he hasn't been properly socialised. Which is why I think you should ask the owners to make sure you have room to get past him where he can't actually get to you. I think mouthing is mostly harmless, mouthing and growling is not harmless and given his strength then I think you are right not to trust him.
Like most dogs he feels comfortable with people, like your friend, who is comfortable with him but possibly senses your discomfort. Treat him with caution and you're well within your rights to ask the owners to give you space to get past him.
Originally Posted by Jazzi
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Where I help with animal care, the security guard is a 2 year Akita. He has a kennel and lives outside, with a rope attached to his collar. He was rescued, apparently, from a bunch of EEs who used to throw rocks at him! He is a friendly dog, once he knows you, BUT...he can be quite boisterous!! Sometimes when I have to get past him I hold my bags out in front of me, (so I can gauge his mood), to come between us because he likes to jump up. Sometimes he'll get to his feet, walk slowly towards me and turn his back, so I can stroke him. When going out, I prefer it when he's lying on the ground, not bothering to get up. At times I have asked the owners to grab his lead while I walk past.
On Friday he seemed fine when I left but he has a problem with 'mouthing'. He grabbed my wrist, and was then growling. I got my wrist free and called for owner's husband, and the dog just sat on the floor, tail wagging furiously. The problem with him, as our mutual friend said before, he does it because he doesn't want you to leave! And yet as I said to the owner's husband as he held the dog back so I could go past, I still don't 100% trust him.
I call out to him before entering the garden, saying things like 'good boy A (using his name), good boy!' and try not to show fear. I just wish his owners could find a way of stopping him jumping up.
He had a very strong grip with his jaws and for a short while my wrist really hurt. So it's easy to understand the damage they can inflict and how powerless a victim could be when under attack.
When our mutual friend visits she shows no fear with him, (and he adores the attention) but she is a current dog owner and used to handling them.
22-12-2013, 12:53 AM
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[QUOTE=Baxter8;393714]I'm feel slightly alarmed by your posting, i.e "lives outside, with a rope attached to his collar" in an animal care centre!!! Doesn't sounds that caring to me!QUOTE]I must agree with Baxter here Jazzi, it does seem a very strange advert for a rescue centre to have a dog tied up outside like that?
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