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If that happens, perhaps those who wanted to leave should just ignore any derogatory comments. There is little point in arguing once we have left, no matter which side we voted for.

We will all be to blame if we don't try to work together to make Brexit work
I agree, but I'm afraid that is inevitable.

As a nation, we are bound to disagree with each other, as that is what we do.

The only thing that has brought us together in the past is a war. We haven't had a war for seventy years and consequently we have become quite used to falling out between ourselves.
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Re: This is now Boring.

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If that happens, perhaps those who wanted to leave should just ignore any derogatory comments. There is little point in arguing once we have left, no matter which side we voted for.

We will all be to blame if we don't try to work together to make Brexit work
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Labour will be using any failings in Brexit to oust the Tories and get into power themselves.


The SNP will be using it to get another Referendum on Independence.

All Politicians will say they could have got a better deal than May.

That I am afraid, is what Politics is all about.

It is power, they are not bothered about us.
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26-12-2018, 02:06 PM
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Hi

Labour will be using any failings in Brexit to oust the Tories and get into power themselves.


The SNP will be using it to get another Referendum on Independence.

All Politicians will say they could have got a better deal than May.

That I am afraid, is what Politics is all about.

It is power, they are not bothered about us.
I don't disagree Swimmy, but I do think it is down to the people of this country to tell politicians what we expect, if they want our vote.
We have had to wait for almost 2 years to get Brexit through, so we should expect them to meet their election promises within 2 years... or our vote will go to another party if they don't. There will no longer be the excuse that the EU are preventing them!
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26-12-2018, 02:22 PM
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I don't disagree Swimmy, but I do think it is down to the people of this country to tell politicians what we expect, if they want our vote.
We have had to wait for almost 2 years to get Brexit through, so we should expect them to meet their election promises within 2 years... or our vote will go to another party if they don't. There will no longer be the excuse that the EU are preventing them!
You let them get away with that excuse for forty years? You never gave your vote to that other party? Come now!
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26-12-2018, 02:23 PM
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You let them get away with that excuse for forty years? You never gave your vote to that other party? Come now!
You miss the point they were all the same. all doing it. We now need to hold their feet to the coals and make them represent us properly. Not allow the elite to control us.
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26-12-2018, 02:30 PM
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You miss the point they were all the same. all doing it. We now need to hold their feet to the coals and make them represent us properly. Not allow the elite to control us.
Being politicians, they will find another excuse. And your track record of forty years bodes no garantees they won't get away with it again. So do not fool yourself with reasons why you should need a brexit.
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26-12-2018, 02:40 PM
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I don't disagree Swimmy, but I do think it is down to the people of this country to tell politicians what we expect, if they want our vote.
Unfortunately, we have the choice of only two political parties that have any realistic chance of forming a government, and that has been the situation for many years.

What can we tell them?

All we can do is vote for one or the other - a vote for any other party is effectively a lost vote - and whatever they say in their manifestos, at the end of the day they will do whatever they feel is best for them and not us.
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26-12-2018, 02:51 PM
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Being politicians, they will find another excuse. And your track record of forty years bodes no garantees they won't get away with it again. So do not fool yourself with reasons why you should need a brexit.
All politicians do it, they like having power! Their selfish behaviour over Brexit, from both major parties, has made British people very aware of their behaviour.

We want Brexit as it allows us to make our own decisions, but we don't need it to help get rid of politicians who don't believe in democracy..... many have signed their own death warrant, as politicians, on that!

Perhaps we should follow France's demonstration on how to let our government know what we want!
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26-12-2018, 03:01 PM
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Unfortunately, we have the choice of only two political parties that have any realistic chance of forming a government, and that has been the situation for many years.

What can we tell them?

All we can do is vote for one or the other - a vote for any other party is effectively a lost vote - and whatever they say in their manifestos, at the end of the day they will do whatever they feel is best for them and not us.
If that is how you feel JBR, you are already defeated! We should write to let them know how we feel and be prepared to vote for smaller parties if they don't listen! If 20% of voters did that, Tory and Labour would lose a few important seats....and they would not want to do that, having seen what a few DUP seats have managed to do to Tory plans!
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26-12-2018, 03:20 PM
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Re: This is now Boring.

Originally Posted by Twink55 ->
All politicians do it, they like having power! Their selfish behaviour over Brexit, from both major parties, has made British people very aware of their behaviour.

We want Brexit as it allows us to make our own decisions, but we don't need it to help get rid of politicians who don't believe in democracy..... many have signed their own death warrant, as politicians, on that!

Perhaps we should follow France's demonstration on how to let our government know what we want!
Well certainly now the time is ripe, and May has unwittingly aided us by decimating police numbers and ensuring that those we still have are led by PC donkeys!
 
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