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04-06-2021, 06:10 PM
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It was less than peanuts this time last year - 1,700 per day .....

Even if deaths are minimal and symptoms milder, 5,000 cases a day is 35,000 a week, 150,000 a month, 2,000,000 a year (extrapolated) .....

That will incur a lot of sick leave, quarantine and isolation.

BJ and Soapy need to do something soon .....

A further 6,238 confirmed cases in the UK were announced by the government on Friday.

How do those figures compare with the figures for influenza?
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How do those figures compare with the figures for influenza?
No idea ..... AFAIK, they're entirely different beasts ..... for example, we don't get flu outbreaks of 5,000 per day in the summer in the UK.
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No idea ..... AFAIK, they're entirely different beasts ..... for example, we don't get flu outbreaks of 5,000 per day in the summer in the UK.
True.

However, I think what needs to be considered is what effect does contracting Covid have on us collectively.

I believe that deaths and serious illnesses from Covid are far fewer now.

The question is, can we live with these outbreaks of Covid if they have little effect on the majority of people?
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True.

However, I think what needs to be considered is what effect does contracting Covid have on us collectively.

I believe that deaths and serious illnesses from Covid are far fewer now.

The question is, can we live with these outbreaks of Covid if they have little effect on the majority of people?
This next "wave" will be the telling - with most UK citizens vaccinated, outbreaks may well be localised but will that mean local lockdowns, or will travel, and hence transmission, be permitted?

The elephant in the room is foreign travel - even now, under "controlled" entry restrictions, variants have penetrated the UK - what happens when the floodgates open (average 150,000,000 per year (visitors and returning residents)) .....

No-one knows ..... yet .....
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04-06-2021, 07:39 PM
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This next "wave" will be the telling - with most UK citizens vaccinated, outbreaks may well be localised but will that mean local lockdowns, or will travel, and hence transmission, be permitted?

The elephant in the room is foreign travel - even now, under "controlled" entry restrictions, variants have penetrated the UK - what happens when the floodgates open (average 150,000,000 per year (visitors and returning residents)) .....

No-one knows ..... yet .....
Well we all know who's responsible for bringing the virus here uninvited, and there's no sign of any limitations on them.
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Well we all know who's responsible for bringing the virus here uninvited, and there's no sign of any limitations on them.
The virus is here already!

I would like to see more detail by age on the hospital admissions etc. But the following tells me all I need to know :

31 may last year it was 528 admissions, 31 may this year it was 123.

3rd june 21 134 in ventilator beds, 3rd June 2020 602 in ventilator beds.

Now this is before the virus was a widespread as now. Before variants etc.

Deaths 3rd June 2020 : 155. 3rd Jun 21 : 4
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The virus is here already!

I would like to see more detail by age on the hospital admissions etc. But the following tells me all I need to know :

31 may last year it was 528 admissions, 31 may this year it was 123.

3rd june 21 134 in ventilator beds, 3rd June 2020 602 in ventilator beds.

Now this is before the virus was a widespread as now. Before variants etc.

Deaths 3rd June 2020 : 155. 3rd Jun 21 : 4
That hasn't got anything to do with the fact that we are still coming out of a lockdown since Christmas and the supermarkets and shops are full of mask wearing customers is it Annie? We have only just started to come out of our hidey holes, and as you know, the figures work in a delayed reaction. Just like they are doing now once we start to return to normal. The winter will test the hospital admissions theory.
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Yep Foxy, its difficult to assess where the default is at the moment.
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05-06-2021, 10:27 AM
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Re: Coronavirus: Third wave will 'wash up on our shores', warns Johnson

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The virus is here already!

I would like to see more detail by age on the hospital admissions etc. But the following tells me all I need to know :

31 may last year it was 528 admissions, 31 may this year it was 123.

3rd june 21 134 in ventilator beds, 3rd June 2020 602 in ventilator beds.

Now this is before the virus was a widespread as now. Before variants etc.

Deaths 3rd June 2020 : 155. 3rd Jun 21 : 4
Last years figures?
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05-06-2021, 10:55 AM
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Last years figures?
I have put both years' figures. They are from the ONS gov website where they update the stats daily in the dashboard if you go go "data" and scroll through.
 
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