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If I understand the case correctly, the customer wanted to order cake with the slogan “support gay marriage”. The Christian bakers didn't refuse to serve the customer because he was gay or bake a cake for him - they refused to bake a cake endorsing gay marriage which their religious beliefs do not condone.

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I have little patience with silly things like this, because both parties were trying to make a point.
If the couple didn't want to make the cake they should have said so at the beginning because they are entitled to refuse work and the gay man could have got his cake elsewhere, where there was less sensitivity.
The gay man was trying to demonstrate that prejudice was being displayed, but as Gay marriage was not legal in N Ireland it was not.
I don't support either side because both were being petty, but I do wonder whether catholic staff, working at a pharmacy, were expected to sell condoms when the Catholic church saw birth control as being evil.
Religion causes more problems than anything else and I am afraid that laws of the country are being changed to accommodate them.

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Just splitting hairs......

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..... or are others making a mountain out of a molehill .....

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Then the stupid man should have gone elsewhere for his cake. I just wonder if any other baker would have done as he asked, seeing as gay marriage was not legal there!

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Exactly .....

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It really doesn't make any difference, the business is there to provide a service for payment, not police the morality of others. They purport to be christian, so whatever happened to tolerance and forgiveness, or is that just reserved for like minded people?.

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Tittle tattle over cakes and what to put on them, with lent coming up where do we stand with 'Hot CROSS Buns'?, where will it all end I ask meself.

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A lot of people, including me, don't believe in same sex marriages. To me a marriage is between a man and a woman. Having said that I don't have strong feelings about it unlike the baker. Yet the law of the land insists that they go against their ' quite reasonable' belief, IMO that cannot be right. They haven't condemned same sex partnerships, just same sex marriage which they refuse to promote.

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Gareth Lee, the gay rights activist whose order was declined, is the one who has brought the bakers to court - where's his "tolerance and forgiveness" .....

I guess "tolerance and forgiveness" just aren't on his agenda .....