26-06-2016, 09:17 PM
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Re: Johnson and Gove - have they lost/messed up?
Originally Posted by Meg
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Such a narrow view, so you would be happy with a one party system then and a virtual dictatorship with no opposition 
Try Russia or North Korea , I am sure one of them would suit you fine
Once the Tories have finished fiddling the electoral system we will be living in what amounts to a one-party state anyway. This current chaos gives us an outside chance of stopping it.
26-06-2016, 09:26 PM
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Re: Johnson and Gove - have they lost/messed up?
Originally Posted by Meg
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It doesn't surprise me at all that you would 'imagine ' that having previously stated in another thread ... ''Sadly all people saw was immigration and not the bigger picture''.
..so you are clearly someone who fails to appreciate that some of us have a level of integrity.
We voted differently nothing to do with I integrity. So accept that as fact.
26-06-2016, 09:30 PM
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Cameron is a loser and has made some bad decisions during his watch as PM.His ilk will never understand the common working class people. Fortunately, there are more of us than there are of them so unless you keep us 'on side' and understand what is important to us we are always going to butt heads that will eventually manifest itself either in a General Election or in this case an EU referendum.
Nobody can predict the future but several journalists claim to be able to do just that in their blogs. 24 hours in politics is a long time and things change rapidly making all assumptions of the future void. I believe articles like this could (a) be totally wide of the mark or (b) perhaps partially correct, but never accurate. I believe that in the space of one week it will be totally irrelevant and forgotten languishing in the bottom of someone's recycling bin.
26-06-2016, 09:30 PM
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Re: Johnson and Gove - have they lost/messed up?
Originally Posted by Goldielocks
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My quotes were from facts as stated by polls after Brexit. The main reason being immigration.
It is not true that '' all people saw was immigration and not the bigger picture'' so it is not a fact .
26-06-2016, 09:34 PM
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It is true that over a million Leave voters regret their decision in the face of the Leave leaders admitting their promises were in fact lies. Fact, not sour grapes, not bad sportsmanship. Quite how these liars can adequately negotiate our leaving EU is beyond me.26-06-2016, 09:41 PM
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Re: Johnson and Gove - have they lost/messed up?
Originally Posted by Devo
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It is true that over a million Leave voters regret their decision in the face of the Leave leaders admitting their promises were in fact lies. Fact, not sour grapes, not bad sportsmanship. Quite how these liars can adequately negotiate our leaving EU is beyond me.
26-06-2016, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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How do we know that Devo, it appears that the internet will provide you with 'Facts' to support whatever you believe.
26-06-2016, 09:51 PM
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Re: Johnson and Gove - have they lost/messed up?
Originally Posted by Devo
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A Survation poll for the Mail.
26-06-2016, 09:56 PM
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Re: Johnson and Gove - have they lost/messed up?
Originally Posted by Devo
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It is true that over a million Leave voters regret their decision in the face of the Leave leaders admitting their promises were in fact lies. Fact, not sour grapes, not bad sportsmanship. Quite how these liars can adequately negotiate our leaving EU is beyond me.
Show me anyone who would have believed the mayhem that has resulted from the vote.
For some people, that might well have made them question their vote.
That, to me, doesn't necessarily indicate they regret which way they voted ... they might well question what is going to become of the country when they see all the fallout.
I think we can all blame our politicians for that.
None of them seem to have had a plan.
Least of all Cameron who bluntly announced ... I'm off.
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