15-04-2013, 10:42 AM
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Re: Margret Thatcher
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Cate darlin' - that's far too simplistic. Some of us have cause to know Thatcher (phth, phth,phth) much better than you do and the policies she pursued led to the destruction of much of our manufacturing industries, causing huge unemployment (it was over 3 million on several occasions). Her vitriolic attack on the Trade Union movement and demonising of anyone who opposed her, not just Arthur Scargill (the Miners leader). She privatised and then sold off all the public utilities (which is why we are now in trouble with power and water supplies).
15-04-2013, 10:54 AM
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Re: Margret Thatcher
Back in the day I remember a very true saying where there is muck there's brass and the cleaning industry paid very good wages. I could earn more per hour at one time than someone working in a shop could earn in a day. It was £12 to £15 an hour for office cleaning and anyone doing dirtier jobs could almost have written their own cheques.NMW stopped that and now £6.19 an hour is a normal rate.
As a cleaner I mourn those days passing but with my head on straight I can see that wasn't sustainable.
What is sad is NMW is not enough to live on really and we should be looking at it rising to lift people out of the trap of having to claim top up benefits (stupidest idea ever IMO).
15-04-2013, 11:05 AM
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Re: Margret Thatcher
Originally Posted by ben-varrey
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No business owner will deliberately strangle their own business - what would be the point. Wages/salaries grew beyond proportion. Everyone is entitled to earn a good income and I remember my first husband, he worked at Leyland, earning £120pw and we thought we were rich! Compared to many we knew, we were but with hindsight, that was a heck of a wage for unskilled labour. Then those who are skilled will want their pay adjusted so that unskilled labour isn't paid more than they are - so on and so on. The end result leads to inflation which is exactly what happened under the previous government. It isn't possible to have higher pay without higher prices - businesses would go bankrupt. Oh hang on - they did.
Perhaps you'd care to explain then Karen the fact that under MT (phth, phth, phth) inflation was over 27%
15-04-2013, 11:06 AM
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Re: Margret Thatcher
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Errr Julie, it was Thatcher (phth, phth, phth) who signed the 'Single Market' Treaty. Before that, every piece of legislation which emanated from Brussels, had to ratified by our own Parliament. After she signed that treaty, all European legislation was automatically deemed to be incorporated into our domestic legislation. Still say she kept Europe at bay???
And whilst you seem to be anti trade-union, might I remind you that it was the WORKERS (and their Trade Unions) who, (a) brought about and were responsible for much of the rights we all now enjoy and (b) created the wealth that the country had (and still has) in the first place.
Another reason for Britain's proverty and inability to weather the financial collapse is this little incident - also Labour's fault: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...rown-told.html
With Labour is in power, it often leaves Britain on the brink of collapse. How you can defend them is a complete mystery to me - they do this nearly every time. They simply buy the patriotism of the British in a way that they can't sustain, hence the ridiculous selling frenzies they go through to support the bribes.
15-04-2013, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Cooke
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I wholeheartedly agree with you Julie and I was the union secretary at my place of work for a few years. I am as much against irresposible trade unionism as I am against irresponsible management. In an ideal world both sides should work together for the common good. Maggie was right to rein in the trade unions but wrong to encourage the greed which now pervades the upper echelons of power. Unless something is done about that we may yet again see the strikes that once were the ruin of our country.
15-04-2013, 11:13 AM
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Re: Margret Thatcher
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Perhaps you'd care to explain then Karen the fact that under MT (phth, phth, phth) inflation was over 27%
15-04-2013, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Back in the day I remember a very true saying where there is muck there's brass and the cleaning industry paid very good wages. I could earn more per hour at one time than someone working in a shop could earn in a day. It was £12 to £15 an hour for office cleaning and anyone doing dirtier jobs could almost have written their own cheques. NMW stopped that and now £6.19 an hour is a normal rate.
As a cleaner I mourn those days passing but with my head on straight I can see that wasn't sustainable.
What is sad is NMW is not enough to live on really and we should be looking at it rising to lift people out of the trap of having to claim top up benefits (stupidest idea ever IMO).
15-04-2013, 11:55 AM
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Re: Margret Thatcher
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Perhaps you'd care to explain then Karen the fact that under MT (phth, phth, phth) inflation was over 27%
Thatcher inherited some of the worst economic statistics of postwar Britain. The nation was still feeling the effects of the endless strikes during the recent Winter of Discontent. Inflation stood at 10.3% in May 1979. 1,500,000 were unemployed – a increase of 50% in five years.
Thatcher's monetarist and deflationary economic policies saw a cut in the inflation rate from from a high of 22% in May 1980 to just over 13% by January 1981, and by June 1983 it had fallen to a 15-year low of 4.9%.
15-04-2013, 12:16 PM
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That was then this is now :http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies
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