22-11-2020, 01:08 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by Omah
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Priti Patel faces axe in reshuffle over ‘competence’https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...ence-csbxdggt3
Of course, some FM's will dismiss this as "gossip" but they said the same about Cummings ...... and now he's gone ......
An attempt at bullying a minister out of their job.
Incredible!
"Multiple sources" indeed !
22-11-2020, 01:25 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by Zaphod
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Is there any chance of you debating the subject at hand rather than trying to decry the disseminator of information?You know; play the ball - not the man?
It's a surefire sign that you have no reasoned argument when you must resort to personal comments rather than the subject at hand.
For somebody that doesn't care you seem determined to participate and to be somewhat odious in your responses too.
You're obviously hurting at my pointing out the obvious, which is (again) that sensible, sane people are capable of recognizing that weasle words are not conclusive evidence.
If you don't like that being pointed out to you I politely suggest you try not dishing out unpleasantness.
In your case the truth obviously hurts.
Basing your argument upon pure supposition - which the whole report seems to be - was never going to end well.
As obstructive, disingenuous civil servants are beginning to find out.
At long last.
You are a pretty obnoxious disagreeable chap yourself who thinks he knows it all aren't you. Clearly you despise anyone disagreeing with your opinion for that is all it is .... your own opinion.
Not fact.
Possibly this bellicose style of interaction with others is Patel's modus operandi too and that's why you can both support and relate to her. It does, one has to admit, often produce the desired result.
On my part I stand by what I said ... the resultant decision by Boris on this has set a precedent for anyone pursuing a tribunal for bullying in the workplace.
In the future anyone about to make any allegation will have to think twice. Shouting and swearing is apparently now acceptable.
It's not open minded or even fair minded or impartial to support the bully purely because you have a low opinion of the victims she allegedly bullied. I say allegedly as you seem to be in some doubt as to whether she was.
Anything else was just for my own curiosity to see how far you could be 'wound up and set off running ' .. and you did not disappoint. Your debating style is rather the backroom lawyer type. As a rule, for that reason, you're best avoided and left to strut and pontificate in the enclosure of your own mind.
22-11-2020, 01:38 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I thought they were freezing pay rises for the public sector. It's MPs who awarded themselves a pay rise.
22-11-2020, 01:39 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by Morticia
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You are a pretty obnoxious disagreeable chap yourself who thinks he knows it all aren't you. Clearly you despise anyone disagreeing with your opinion for that is all it is .... your own opinion. Not fact.
Possibly this bellicose style of interaction with others is Patel's modus operandi too and that's why you can both support and relate to her. It does, one has to admit, often produce the desired result.
On my part I stand by what I said ... the resultant decision by Boris on this has set a precedent for anyone pursuing a tribunal for bullying in the workplace.
In the future anyone about to make any allegation will have to think twice. Shouting and swearing is apparently now acceptable.
It's not open minded or even fair minded or impartial to support the bully purely because you have a low opinion of the victims she allegedly bullied. I say allegedly as you seem to be in some doubt as to whether she was.
Anything else was just for my own curiosity to see how far you could be 'wound up and set off running ' .. and you did not disappoint. Your debating style is rather the backroom lawyer type. As a rule, for that reason, you're best avoided and left to strut and pontificate in the enclosure of your own mind.
Ooo! Get you!
Bullying comes in many forms, being passive aggressive is one that the institutionally embedded are frequently Pastmasters at. A very good way of dealing with passive aggressive underlings is to "rip them a new one". It leaves them two options. Either engage with your boss at the same level, something most simply can't, or get out of the firing line.
Ms Patel did good. Very good.
22-11-2020, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah
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Ah, Rudd, who resigned as Home Secretary after misleading the Home Affairs Select Committee on deportation targets ..... What a whinger ..... she should "grow a pair", a phrase some of our esteemed members have used in relation to Patel, who, presumably has a pair .....
I seem to remember Gordon Brown throwing staplers at them, but thats Ok by the hypocritical lying left
22-11-2020, 01:41 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by Meg
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Rudds 'officials' were clearly not doing their job...what's the betting many are all still in their highly paid jobs and not supporting Patel ...
22-11-2020, 01:43 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by Omah
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Well, Patel's on her way out, anyway - she can take her bullying CV to her next job ..... and upset another set of Civil Servants and breach another Ministerial Code .....
As usual you don't think things through.
22-11-2020, 01:54 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by Bread
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Not according to Annalise Dodds who is calling for it along with the unions.
22-11-2020, 01:55 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by Bread
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You might want to consider that if she is replaced, who replaces her.As usual you don't think things through.
22-11-2020, 01:59 PM
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Re: Senior Home Office official QUITS after vicious rows with Priti Patel
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Ooo! Get you! Bullying comes in many forms, being passive aggressive is one that the institutionally embedded are frequently Pastmasters at. A very good way of dealing with passive aggressive underlings is to "rip them a new one". It leaves them two options. Either engage with your boss at the same level, something most simply can't, or get out of the firing line.
Ms Patel did good. Very good.
Because civil servants need a stick of dynamite up them?
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