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Don't forget, voter fraud is not uncommon in the USA (or anywhere else) so its reasonable to use due diligence to ensure the correct outcome.

What we are seeing is not so much Trump vs Biden but the entire USA electoral system put through the courts.
So there is always some fraud in US and other elections. The scale of probabilities would say that given human nature both political groups are just as likely to commit fraud.

Why is this deemed more fraudulent than the last election? Why do you think it's likely to be more fraudulent in the Biden camp than in the Trump camp?

NB in past audits they have found about 1% of fraud or human error exists but that this does not significantly alter results to swing one way or another. Any reason why this election would be different?
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Republican certifiers in Wayne county, Michigan back down after refusing to approve Biden wi
These futile attempts to keep the moronic Trump in power are expensive and time consuming - in the meantime, Trump's inaction is killing 2,000 US citizens a day .....
What absolutely malicious rubbish!



In case you hadn't noticed, it is a particularly nasty virus which is killing people.
Not a person or (much though you might wish it true) the actions or influence of one person.
If the actions or influence of people could eradicate covid and prevent deaths, Covid-19 would not continue reaping the global havic it still does.

This virus has so far killed more Spaniards per head of population than it has Americans.
And far more Belgians per head of population.

Why aren't you haranguing their leaders too?
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What absolutely malicious rubbish!



In case you hadn't noticed, it is a particularly nasty virus which is killing people.
Not a person or (much though you might wish it true) the actions or influence of one person.
If the actions or influence of people could eradicate covid and prevent deaths, Covid-19 would not continue reaping the global havic it still does.

This virus has so far killed more Spaniards per head of population than it has Americans.
And far more Belgians per head of population.

Why aren't you haranguing their leaders too?

if anything it was the lefty morons in BLM and other left wing protest groups that refused to listen to the advise and lock down. Then there was the Dems that refused to back Trump shutting down the borders, calling him racist and other stupid names.

One minute the left are attacking on Trump because he is pro life and the next they are attacking him for killing 2000 people a day. It's mind boggling - in case the left hadn't noticed, Trump has done more for world peace than Obama or Beijing Biden has done in their entire lives. He has also brokered peace between Israel and UAE, sorted out North Korea, got rid of ISIS, brought the troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq and brought NATO nations such as Germany to the table to make sure they pay their fair share.

What did Obama and Biden do again in 8 years at the White House and the other 39 years Biden was a politician ?

Any ideas ?
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18-11-2020, 12:12 PM
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Re: Breaking - Joe Biden wins US presidential election

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So there is always some fraud in US and other elections. The scale of probabilities would say that given human nature both political groups are just as likely to commit fraud.

Why is this deemed more fraudulent than the last election? Why do you think it's likely to be more fraudulent in the Biden camp than in the Trump camp?

NB in past audits they have found about 1% of fraud or human error exists but that this does not significantly alter results to swing one way or another. Any reason why this election would be different?
It's easy to answer, Annie. The sheer volume of mail-in ballots that are so open to fraud in elections. Even now over 600,000 mail in votes have been registered in Georgia for the elections in January - why ? Because its the easiest way to rig an election.

This is election is way more fraudulent than the last one if you just take some time to read the accusations coming from Republicans, the admission by the Federal Electoral Commission and the number of whistle blowers reporting the fraud. Look at how the press and the Dems are declaring Biden the "President Elect", when he clearly isn't as the process is not concluded. Look at the polls predicting the landslide of the Dems (the blue wave) that didn't happen and the counts that were stopped in Pennsylvania and the swing states when Trump pulled ahead, only to have the votes go in favour of Biden afterwards, surprise, surprise.

This isn't "a little bit of fraud", Annie. Going by what Sydney Powell is saying, in her words it is "millions of votes" and "this will overturn the election result".

Why ?

Because of the sheer scale of it. China did a great job for mail-in ballots - ever wondered why the Dems were telling everyone to stay home then when the results were called they were all out in the streets partying ?

Hmmm... yeah its all above board....
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A number of states have used mail only voting for years. Others are planning on moving to mail only.
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A number of states have used mail only voting for years. Others are planning on moving to mail only.
Why on earth can't it be done electronically when almost everybody has a smart phone?
Then use mail for the technophobes and otherwise disadvantaged; the technology exists and - bonus - results would be available much sooner too.
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Why on earth can't it be done electronically when almost everybody has a smart phone?
Then use mail for the technophobes and otherwise disadvantaged; the technology exists and - bonus - results would be available much sooner too.
That would be even worse.
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Re: Breaking - Joe Biden wins US presidential election

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
So there is always some fraud in US and other elections. The scale of probabilities would say that given human nature both political groups are just as likely to commit fraud.

Why is this deemed more fraudulent than the last election? Why do you think it's likely to be more fraudulent in the Biden camp than in the Trump camp?

NB in past audits they have found about 1% of fraud or human error exists but that this does not significantly alter results to swing one way or another. Any reason why this election would be different?
Annie, you are absolutely correct. Many accusations from hard-core republicans but when it finally comes down to them showing any evidence in court, they can not, and one-by-one the court cases are being dismissed. Moreover, most rational republicans have accepted the reality of a Biden win.
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Annie, you are absolutely correct. Many accusations from hard-core republicans but when it finally comes down to them showing any evidence in court, they can not, and one-by-one the court cases are being dismissed. Moreover, most rational republicans have accepted the reality of a Biden win.
Stop making things up
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18-11-2020, 07:06 PM
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Stop making things up
It's just another insult, the implication being that to suggest wrongdoing or to remind that there is no official result yet that such a Republican must be irrational.
From here it just makes it obvious that one side is just as bad as the other.
With attitudes like that they deserve everything they're getting.
 
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