Hi

A personal view.

Our Borders should already be closed, we are an island.

Not a day goes by without illegals gaining entry

We are 27 months away from leaving, we have no plan in place, much less the systems and personnel.

Free movement is subject to two conditions, a risk to public safety or a risk to public health.

We have no need to let those with a criminal record into the UK, yet we do.

We already catch large numbers of illegals working here, we release them on bail and they disappear.

We have no obligation under any EU Law, it is purely our choice to do so.

We allow illegals who have been here for months and years to apply for asylum.

There is no need to do this under InternationaL Law.

Again, it is our choice.

We already have laws carrying large penalties for people who employ illegals.

Governments are ace at introducing new laws.

Their time would be much better spent in enforcing the existing ones.

Recently a proposal was floated that all schools would have ti have proof of residency before admitting a pupil.

Very sensible in my view, again shot down because it would be racist.

It is very fashionable to blame the EU for all this.

In 27 months time, we leave.

Who are our politicians going to blame then?

It is the UK's sole fault that we have so much Immigration and so many Illegals.

We have more Immigration from outside the EU from within it.

We have 10 times as much Immigration then France does, and they are in the EU,

We could control EU Immigration very easily by changing our Benefits system, we don't, again our fault.

Boris Johnson?

Well, this Brexiteer has proposed an amnesty for illegals who have been here for a number of years.

How stupid is that?

600,000 illegals we should be removing.

A personal view, I feel I am just going round in circles on these types of threads.

Hangman and General Chat appeals much more, so I will leave you to your discussions.

We could control EU Immigration very easily by changing our Benefits system, we don't, again our fault.

Since June there are no benefits available for EU immigrants unless they have been in the UK for 5 years.

Thanks to the European Court of Justice which overturned a Commission decision.

I don't think I'm a member of the 'Looney Left'.

But I do see the chip, chip chipping away of our personal privacy.

Information we provide for a specific purpose is often passed on or even sold to others.
Every website we have ever visited can be tracked - and not only by hackers.
Phones can be a wondrous source of info - legally or illegally.
CCTV cameras are everywhere.
Even our shopping habits can be tracked by dangling incentive programs before us.
Credit card purchases and credit history is far more accessible than many realize.
Our health records are far less private than they were years ago.
Police and other compliance groups can more easily tap phones and plant bugs than ever before.
Privately-owned drones are peeking at all manner of stuff as we speak.
The Tax Office, Social Security and even local councils have more powers and more computer access to just about anything we do.

Every little change seems insignificant in itself - but cumulatively ?
"1984" is alive and well.
Big brother is watching - and all his little, less noble brothers.

It is so subtle and so gradual that we barely notice -
but our grand-parents would hardly believe we have let this happen.

Are you talking as an Australian? If so why are you opposing a British suggestion?

What a strange question.
Ummmmm, I guess I'm "talking as an Australian" because I happen to be one.
But mine was a general observation which I consider to be as relevant in the Midlands as in Melbourne, in London or Sydney, Brisbane or Belfast, Perth or Paris.

Good, I thought you might be residing in Kangeroo Valley

nahhhh, go the whole hog, apricot.

everybody gets a microchip implanted at birth - all their family's medical, credit, tax, political, educational, financial details - along with any sexual preferences, skin colour, ethnicity, religion etc etc.

Ensuring of course that the chip may never be removed and can be used to track your subsequent location, movements, voting patterns, school results, alcohol consumption, driving history etc etc etc.

" if you have nothing to hide why would you be afraid." ?