20-12-2020, 08:29 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Bruce
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I was looking at the figures this morning and realised the USA will probably have more deaths from Covid early next year than they experienced for the whole of WWII!I think they lost about 400000 people in the war (You can correct me on that) they are already at about 330000 deaths from Covid and running at 3000 deaths per day. At that rate they should get 70000 more deaths in 23 days assuming it doesn't increase further. A vaccine won't change that.
I realise that is a back of the envelope calculation but it does show how dire the situation can become in a first world country. This virus is awful and taking a severe toll - getting close to 2 million dead worldwide.
The Boxing Day Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race was cancelled today as Tasmania closes its border to people from NSW. This northern beaches cluster is still not under control patint zero has not been found though they do know the strain came from the USA they don't know how it got into the community.
The quarantine rules for air crew have been tightened they must now stay as specific hotels under police guard after 13 Brazilian crew were fined for breaking quarantine
20-12-2020, 10:09 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by summer
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Australia has dealt with the pandemic so well....i hope when this is over all governments learn from you how to dealt with things for when the next one comes along....which it surely will.
The thing is that this is by no means over and could go on for a couple more years depending on the vaccination success and take up. The northern beaches outbreak is making all the state borders shut down to people from Sydney in time for Christmas, some people are discovering they will have to go into compulsory hotel quarantine mid flight
This was an opinion piece on the ABC website comparing the fortunes of NZ and Australia and shows interesting differences:
Some food for thought for how differently the pandemic (and responses to it) can feed through an economy, came from the release on Thursday of the latest economic figures from New Zealand.
Keep in mind the Kiwis have a much higher reliance on tourism and open borders than we do.
Yet GDP in the September quarter, with the borders closed, and even with some restrictions being put back in place in Auckland during the quarter, rose a staggering 14 per cent, after falling 11 per cent in the June quarter.
By comparison, Australia recorded growth of 3.3 per cent in the September quarter, after falling 7 per cent the previous quarter.
New Zealand recorded a fall of 2.2 per cent in its annual average growth, while year on year growth in Australia (a different measure) fell 3.8 per cent.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...ments/12998508
21-12-2020, 04:27 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Covid data for Monday, 21 December 2020Global Cases: 77,169,391
Increase: 549,246
Global Deaths: 1,699,560
Increase: 7,788
Australia
Cases 28,197 Change: 29
Deaths 908 Change: 0
Critical
Cases per Million 1,100
UK
Cases 2,040,147 Change: 35,928
Deaths 67,401 Change: 326
Critical 1,364
Cases per Million 29,978
USA
Cases 18,267,579 Change: 189,811
Deaths 324,869 Change: 1,468
Critical 27,997
Cases per Million 55,036
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
22-12-2020, 04:25 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Covid data for Tuesday, 22 December 2020Global Cases: 77,715,069
Increase: 545,678
Global Deaths: 1,708,919
Increase: 9,359
Australia
Cases 28,219 Change: 22
Deaths 908 Change: 0
Critical
Cases per Million 1,101
UK
Cases 2,073,511 Change: 33,364
Deaths 67,616 Change: 215
Critical 1,364
Cases per Million 30,468
USA
Cases 18,473,716 Change: 206,137
Deaths 326,772 Change: 1,903
Critical 28,069
Cases per Million 55,657
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
23-12-2020, 06:06 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Covid data for Wednesday, 23 December 2020Global Cases: 78,366,297
Increase: 651,228
Global Deaths: 1,724,039
Increase: 15,120
Australia
Cases 28,237 Change: 18
Deaths 908 Change: 0
Critical
Cases per Million 1,101
UK
Cases 2,110,314 Change: 36,803
Deaths 68,307 Change: 691
Critical 1,364
Cases per Million 31,008
USA
Cases 18,684,628 Change: 210,912
Deaths 330,824 Change: 4,052
Critical 28,393
Cases per Million 56,291
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
23-12-2020, 11:41 AM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
UKCases 2,110,314 Change: 36,803
Deaths 68,307 Change: 691
Critical 1,364
Cases per Million 31,008
This is very misleading.....
Cases per million 31,008
Is based on the 2 million plus, but that is a rolling total from last March!
It suggests that there are 2 million people walking around with covid now. And also suggests that for every million people in the UK that 31,008 people will have covid....Most of those who were reported as having covid on the 2 million list will have long since recovered.
Therefore: there will not be 31,008 people with covid for every million people today. I doubt whether the true figure would even be 1% of that.
If we add together all the new infections for the last 7 days we find 355345
Then if we divide 68 million by 355345 we arrive at 191 people per million.
Even allowing for twice that many people to have been infected and not being diagnosed or tested, we still only have 400 per million.
And after fourteen days there should be no risk of infection, so a new list would be started...
so 31,008 is the 11 month average.....But not live cases...
Based on this way of demonstrating the figures, in ten years time the number of people per million would be an astronomical amount.....Perhaps even 999,000 per million, but fortunately no longer a risk. Still frightening people all the same.
23-12-2020, 04:54 PM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Mups
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Just heard on the news that they have altered a lot of the tiers again.I believe the new changes come into force at midnight on Boxing Day.
My area has gone up from T2 to T3. and loads of places are going to be T4 now.
23-12-2020, 04:58 PM
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Re: Chinese Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Mags
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Same as us Mups, we’re also going up from T2 to T3...
I think they've got to Mags, it's no good people complaining, I don't think they have a choice.
Mind you, as I've said before, they'll be damned if they do, and damned if they don't. They can't win.
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