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Good post Harbal. But let's not forget that not all drag artistes are gay.
Drag artists don't have a significant enough role in my life for it to matter much if I do forget.
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Exactly.

The majority of the audience is usually female from a cross section of age groups.

I really don't think they go in there with any preconceptions of the performers representing a gay perception of a heterosexual perception of a parody of femininity.

Really don't think it's that deep.
it's not a gay or straight perception of female stereotypes, it's societal. But nothing to do with actually being a woman. I bet if you do a cross sectional societal survey of lockdown fash it won't be fishnets or killer heels or mini skirts. But I bet there's still been a great market for size 11 killer heels and extra extra large fishnets...
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01-07-2021, 11:41 PM
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I meant drag artists aren't all gay at all. Some heterosexual men like to sniff knickers, others take it to the next level.
You said, "Nothing to do with being a woman but everything to do with male notions of femininity."

I was making the point that drag artists do not conform to the straight male notion of femininity.
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Drag artists don't have a significant enough role in my life for it to matter much if I do forget.
Well a friend of a friend's husband started off by dressing up as a woman secretly, then he fully transitioned after their divorce, but he was still attracted to women. Go figure. Men can remain fully hetero but want to live their lives as a woman.
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Courtney Act has just started as an interviewer on the ABCs One Plus One not a program I watch regularly I tend to watch it when the guest interests me. The last host was ParaOlympic athlete Kurt Fearnley



I don't think she is creepy at all
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01-07-2021, 11:43 PM
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Well a friend of a friend's husband started off by dressing up as a woman secretly, then he fully transitioned after their divorce, but he was still attracted to women. Go figure. Men can remain fully hetero but want to live their lives as a woman.
So what?
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01-07-2021, 11:46 PM
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You said, "Nothing to do with being a woman but everything to do with male notions of femininity."

I was making the point that drag artists do not conform to the straight male notion of femininity.
How did you come to that conclusion?
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01-07-2021, 11:49 PM
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So what?
So not all men who wear drag are gay. Dick emery wasn't, Barry Humphries wasn't. They parodied female stereotypes. Was this their notion of femininity? I'd like to see an argument that it wasn't. These were the stereotypes of the times.
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How did you come to that conclusion?
By thinking about what I was going to say before I said it.

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
So not all men who wear drag are gay. Dick emery wasn't, Barry Humphries wasn't. They parodied female stereotypes. Was this their notion of femininity? I'd like to see an argument that it wasn't. These were the stereotypes of the times.
I never said all men who wear drag are gay. And are you really suggesting that Dame Edna is a typical male stereotype of femininity?
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By thinking about what I was going to say before I said it.

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How long did the thinking take?

Originally Posted by Harbal ->

I never said all men who wear drag are gay. And are you really suggesting that Dame Edna is a typical male stereotype of femininity?
It was a stereotype of a certain generation/age of Australian women back in the 70s/80s. Feminine stereotypes aren't all young and lovely
 
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