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I really don't understand why anyone would want to go to Germany for a holiday. Particularly in the Summer. Once the sun comes out the humidity there can be unbearable and in the winter it's the coldest of cold. Berlin is interesting but other than that I don't see the appeal at all. I've travelled widely across Germany just in case you're wondering about my strong opinions on this. It has the weirdest atmosphere of any country I've been yet. Denmark is far more fun & laid back.
I agree with you Annie. Probably the last place on my list of places to visit. It has just never appealed to me.
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Solasch you seem to go out of your way to try and make the UK worried..... but it doesn't work !
I took my sister to have her first AZ jab yesterday & from the number of people there it seems that there is no shortage of the vaccine.
I have also been assured that there will be no shortage when I go for my second AZ jab on 27th April, so your post does not appear to be accurate.
Don't worry though, we are all aware that the EU have made lots of mistakes....that is why we got out!
I agree Twink. We both have our second jabs booked now, Mrs LD got the call today and is booked for next week. I doubt they would have called if they didn't have the vaccine.

Just the usual sour grapes from that Europe place or whatever it's called.
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11-04-2021, 12:03 PM
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Ouch! Haven't you heard AZ is sueing india becayse they blocked the vaccines produced there?
Good for them.
AstraZeneca is as you said an Anglo-Swedish pharma company, something which you and the EU don't seem to be able to quite fully grasp.
It isn't owned by the UK government.
Just like vaccine manufacturers with sites in EU member countries are not owned by the EU themselves.
Not that such a detail seems to matter to the EU who want to dictate who these companies can do business with, apparently.

AstraZeneca vaccines are made here in the UK too you know.
Our VMIC is due to begin production very soon with a capacity of 140 million doses per year plus, in addition to the two existing manufacturing sites.
Then there's the manufacturers Novavax and Valneva with their UK production thanks to UK funding too, companies which so far the EU hasn't even placed firm orders with.
Novavax certification for use in the UK is due imminently.

That's why your EUrophile nefarious types like Breton and Von der Leyen are gnashing their teeth and trying every dirty trick in the book to stop the UK from staying ahead with their vaccination plan.
It's not working so far and it never will.
As EU citizens can see for themselves as restrictions continue and as fatalities continue apace.
These EU citizens will not forget the useless lot that let this happen.
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I agree Twink. We both have our second jabs booked now, Mrs LD got the call today and is booked for next week. I doubt they would have called if they didn't have the vaccine.

Just the usual sour grapes from that Europe place or whatever it's called.
It is indeed and my post above probably explains why: they hate to see anybody do better than them.
Especially us.
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11-04-2021, 05:46 PM
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It is indeed and my post above probably explains why: they hate to see anybody do better than them.
Especially us.
You can always use american leftovers. An average of just over*3m doses a day*are being administered in the US with the country benefiting from significant local supply of the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. The AstraZeneca vaccine, which it has yet to authorise, may not be needed there.

The single-shot Johnson & Johnson jab, which will rapidly speed up any immunisation programme,*would not be available for the UK until July, though it will reportedly be approved by the UK regulator within days.
It is expected to be available in the EU, where it has already been approved, from 19 April.
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11-04-2021, 06:00 PM
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You can always use american leftovers. An average of just over*3m doses a day*are being administered in the US with the country benefiting from significant local supply of the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. The AstraZeneca vaccine, which it has yet to authorise, may not be needed there.

The single-shot Johnson & Johnson jab, which will rapidly speed up any immunisation programme,*would not be available for the UK until July, though it will reportedly be approved by the UK regulator within days.
It is expected to be available in the EU, where it has already been approved, from 19 April.
Whilst the EU are approving new vaccines I am just happy to say that almost half the UK population have already been vaccinated with at least one injection! I suspect the UK's rapid thinking is the reason for this, but why were the EU so slow in trying to protect their citizens?
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11-04-2021, 06:36 PM
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Whilst the EU are approving new vaccines I am just happy to say that almost half the UK population have already been vaccinated with at least one injection! I suspect the UK's rapid thinking is the reason for this, but why were the EU so slow in trying to protect their citizens?
Simple.
They're useless.

That's not just some bilious offhand remark but instead it's based upon evidence.
Look at every time the EU faces difficulty or crisis and their "we are in charge as a single united union" stuff falls apart.
Even without their vaccine fiasco, the migration farce proved that very clearly.
That one is still trundling on too without being resolved, after how many years?
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11-04-2021, 06:52 PM
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Re: UK should be grateful

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You can always use american leftovers. An average of just over*3m doses a day*are being administered in the US with the country benefiting from significant local supply of the Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines. The AstraZeneca vaccine, which it has yet to authorise, may not be needed there.
You're crowing about 3 million vaccinations a day in a country with a population of over 332 million?
Here we've had to trim our plan for a little while but still yesterday we vaccinated almost 0.6 million in a population of just 68 million.
Give or take a little that's the same number of jabs per head, so what are you on about?
And who cares what vaccine is being given as long as it save lives?

If you were fair you would be asking the USA for their leftovers to be sent to the EU since they obviously are in far greater need.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
The single-shot Johnson & Johnson jab, which will rapidly speed up any immunisation programme,*would not be available for the UK until July, though it will reportedly be approved by the UK regulator within days.
It is expected to be available in the EU, where it has already been approved, from 19 April.
Would that be the Johnson & Johnson jab that is also under investigation for clotting problems?
https://news.sky.com/story/eu-regula...clots-12270444

If you really are that desperate for that one you go for it.
Judging by EU difficulties you are.
We're due to approve the Novavax jab any day now and we are already producing it here in the UK.
While the EU haven't even been able to make a confirmed order for any of that one, the useless bunch that they are.
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11-04-2021, 07:21 PM
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Many countries in the EU have 5-6% fully vaccinated, we have 10.5%. But in the US it's over 20% who have had both jabs. Israel is doing best at 54% Russia is doing worse than the EU despite producing its own vaccine at less than 4%. Hungary is doing better than we are at 12%. So I do think the EU discussions are a bit smoke and mirrors. They obviously have supplies.
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Best thing that could happen to the EU is for it to break up. It's not what it was supposed to be in the beginning and has grown into a vile evil beast, far too big for it's own good.
Countries should look after themselves and sort out trade between each other without all the bossy demands coming from the EU, with all their rules.
 
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