27-12-2020, 06:54 PM
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Re: A Cheer For Boris!
Originally Posted by JBR
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I shall wait for the end of the year, and possibly even later than that, to find out what all the fine details are.If we have achieved all that we want and need, then that's fine.
Call me a cynic, but I have not made up my mind yet.
Most of us will be fastidiously observant for many years to come in the expectation that somewhere, probably hidden as deeply as possible, will be the deliberately deceitful clause designed to in some way impede the fully-independent progress of our country.
If it turns out that there is, especially if this deal is concluded after so many minute examinations by multiple different people, that will be very damaging for the EU because it will show the whole world as well as current dissatisfied members that they are crooked and untrustworthy.
We in the UK however could invoke an ammendment under our own laws (as per the WA) , and no rational country would disagree with such an action upon seeing the EU's dishonesty.
None of us, myself included, are in any different a position regarding giving this deal our full support than you are because we haven't yet been able to examine the small detail OR rely upon somebody that has done so.
Well, unless your name is Sir Keir Starmer apparently.
27-12-2020, 10:18 PM
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Re: A Cheer For Boris!
Originally Posted by Bread
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Looks like we can only allocate quotas after the 5 year period when we take back full control of our waters and get the 60%.Hmmm.....
I guess I can live with that ...
27-12-2020, 10:27 PM
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Re: A Cheer For Boris!
Originally Posted by Bread
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Looks like we can only allocate quotas after the 5 year period when we take back full control of our waters and get the 60%.Hmmm.....
I guess I can live with that ...
https://www.over50sforum.com/showthr...02#post2009802
posts #11 and #15
it states "shares 2026 onwards".
I'd be much happier if it simply stated "shares 2026", as that would suggest that we could then indeed take back full control of our waters.
My worry is that, going by that wording, we'll be stuck with handing over those percentages in perpetuity.
27-12-2020, 11:21 PM
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Re: A Cheer For Boris!
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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Nicely put Zaphod 
Bruce, we actually left the EU at the end of last year. What has been happening since then has, euphemistically, been called "the transition period" while a trade deal was thrashed out. This was explained ad infinitum to Solasch on this very forum.
And likewise if you wish to believe the Eton/Oxbridge mob has your best interests at heart that is fine too.
27-12-2020, 11:29 PM
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Re: A Cheer For Boris!
Originally Posted by Bruce
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Yes, that is technically correct but the reality was that the UK was bound by EU rules but with no voice within the EU. That finally comes to an end in a couple of days time. If you wish to believe the EUs influence was removed a year ago then that is fine.And likewise if you wish to believe the Eton/Oxbridge mob has your best interests at heart that is fine too.
We were bound by the withdrawal bill outside the EU. Ger your technicalities right.
The Eton mob just got us out of socialism - twice in about a year. That's a result in itself
28-12-2020, 04:39 AM
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Re: A Cheer For Boris!
Originally Posted by Bread
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We were bound by the withdrawal bill outside the EU. Ger your technicalities right.The Eton mob just got us out of socialism - twice in about a year. That's a result in itself
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