09-07-2019, 12:09 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Give up Bread!. You cannot possibly hope for them to agree with you. They are already a lost cause in the mists of the EU.
Some people just can't be made to understand I guess
09-07-2019, 12:11 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
Originally Posted by itsme
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Wrong again over the free port discussion eh? must be really boring for you not to get something right.
No I'm not wrong.
You don't get it ... it's simply beyond your ability to understand the difference between a free port and the EU version which is nothing like any free port in the rest of the world.
You can deny it all you like ... it doesn't make you right.
09-07-2019, 02:57 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
Originally Posted by Banchory
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iI read the document thoroughly Boris made a statement that the EU were preventing the UK from setting up free trade zones. That statement was not qualified in any form or shape and no comparisons were made to free trade areas in other countries therefore his statement is not true. What you think Boris meant is irrelevant as it is not a supportable factWhat facts are clear is that Boris lied and you can’t man up and admit you are wrong
09-07-2019, 03:02 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
Originally Posted by Bread
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No I'm not wrong. You don't get it ... it's simply beyond your ability to understand the difference between a free port and the EU version which is nothing like any free port in the rest of the world.
You can deny it all you like ... it doesn't make you right.
I don't need to, Johnson only made reference to a free port and did not qualify it by reference to an EU version.
Think it through if possible.
09-07-2019, 03:19 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
Originally Posted by itsme
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I don't need to, Johnson only made reference to a free port and did not qualify it by reference to an EU version. Think it through if possible.
We are all still having a right old laugh at that one here. Keep it up your hilarious
09-07-2019, 04:48 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
Originally Posted by Bread
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I don't need to think it through it's been me pointing out to you and your mate what a free port is and how they work. Neither you or him had the faintest idea you thought we could control our own trade policy until I put you straight and then your mate posted three wrong document.We are all still having a right old laugh at that one here. Keep it up your hilarious
Obviously it is not sinking in. Johnson only made reference to free ports with no qualification and therefore his statement is wrong. Nothing unusual in that.
The rest of your post is just camouflage for you being wrong.
09-07-2019, 04:57 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
Originally Posted by itsme
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Obviously it is not sinking in. Johnson only made reference to free ports with no qualification and therefore his statement is wrong. Nothing unusual in that.The rest of your post is just camouflage for you being wrong.
Go and Google up what a free port is then Google up what the customs union is. Then try and understand why it is not possible to make our own trading arrangements.
We cannot have free ports in the UK ... we can get any old port and call it a "free port" but it is not one by definition
If you do not understand that then you have much bigger issues.
You even say yourself an EU free port is not the same as a free port anywhere else in the world. ... what do you not understand about boris Johnson saying the EU prevents us from having free ports???
Do you still not get it ?
09-07-2019, 05:15 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
The EU stooges here are in denial. Sad to see.Let's have the facts
Why EU Free Ports are NOT normal Free Ports
From UK parliament:
https://researchbriefings.files.parl...-2018-0211.pdf
"In a 2016 report, published by the Centre for Policy Studies think tank, Sunak argues that Single Market regulations in the Union Customs Code and EU state aid rules have ensured EU free zones “amount to little more than storage and warehouse facilities with simpler customs formalities”
"A common criticism of EU free ports is that they are more limited in scope than international comparisons. A 2013 Canadian study of free ports internationally states that “the development of the Union itself has placed some restrictions” on free ports that “have narrowed the scope of their capabilities… In order to keep a level playing field, the EU has restrictions on state aid to private enterprises and these reduce the scope for incentives.” 4 Similarly, the French academic Alexandre Lavissičre has argued recently that “while continental Europe was the birthplace of free ports, the EU neither develops them directly nor encourages them.”
Why Free Ports won't fly whilst we remain in the EU
http://www.brevia.co.uk/news/free-po...stic-prospect/
"Free ports are essentially incompatible with current EU rules, and would likely be ruled out should the UK secure a ‘deep and special partnership’ with the EU. However, in the event of ‘no deal’ or a loose trade agreement with the EU, the concept deserves a fair hearing."
"A deep and special partnership, if it aligns the UK to EU rules on an on-going basis, would mean the UK would have to comply with EU general legal provisions which prevent unfair competition between firms.[3] EU state aid regulations also limit the amount of support the Government could give to businesses using free ports.[4] Usually through generous tax breaks, state aid is common practice in developed countries who have introduced free ports or free trade zones"
Bottom line then.
EU "Free Ports" are nothing of the sort but are highly restricted entities that seek to level the playing field.
Therefore a REAL Free Port is never going to happen whilst we remain in the EU. Once we leave, we can do as we please and set up multiple free ports.
Boris is correct
Bread is correct
EU stooges are as usual talking complete b*ll*cks.
Roll on NO DEAL BrExit !
09-07-2019, 05:21 PM
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Re: Brexit and Boris.
Originally Posted by Bread
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Go and Google up what a free port is then Google up what the customs union is. Then try and understand why it is not possible to make our own trading arrangements.We cannot have free ports in the UK ... we can get any old port and call it a "free port" but it is not one by definition
If you do not understand that then you have much bigger issues.
You even say yourself an EU free port is not the same as a free port anywhere else in the world. ... what do you not understand about boris Johnson saying the EU prevents us from having free ports???
Do you still not get it ?
The claim: The UK does not have free ports because of its membership of the EU.
Reality Check verdict: It is not true to say you can't have free ports or tax-free zones if you are a member state of the EU. There are more than 80 such zones across the Union. It would be easier to take advantage of potential benefits outside the EU.
Still don't get it do you, Johnson lied again
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