29-01-2020, 08:35 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Tedc
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Very Very worrying.Oddly, you would think that anyone, with even the smallest amount of intelligence, would know that safety has been totally put at risk if there is no place to go if your car packs up.
Hopefully victims will start demanding legal response to their experiences.
30-01-2020, 02:03 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
https://www.thomasduntonsolicitors.c...mart-motorway/Somebody has to be held to account.
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/d...t-causes-them/
30-01-2020, 02:52 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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https://www.thomasduntonsolicitors.c...mart-motorway/
I wish them the best of luck with their legal action, not only for themselves but also for all users of smart motorways.
Hopefully, it would take only one successful action, with a large payout and consequences for the proponents of smart motorways, to bring about the changes we are all asking for.
30-01-2020, 02:54 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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https://www.thomasduntonsolicitors.c...mart-motorway/Somebody has to be held to account.
30-01-2020, 04:00 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Meg
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The families of those lost on SMs ought to get together and bring a class action against Highways England , it could cost them millions if the case was won and concentrate minds.
The "State of the Art" defence would be insurmountable (according to my dil who is a lawyer)
30-01-2020, 04:33 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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It would unquestionably fail even if it ever reached a court.The "State of the Art" defence would be insurmountable (according to my dil who is a lawyer)
After the number of people killed due to this poorly thought-out idea reaches a sufficiently high number, I think all the self-serving lawyers in the country will be overruled.
I think that within another five years (approaching the next GE), the number of deaths on smart motoways will have risen to such numbers that the next election could well be fought on this matter as much as any other.
Changes will then take place and inside lanes will be restored to hard shoulders. Just a pity that so many people have to die unnecessarily in the meantime.
30-01-2020, 04:37 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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I'd sooner add hours to my journey time than risk life and limb on a smart motorway.
If all of us avoid the innermost lane, things would be a lot safer, and in so doing we would be effectively maintaining the innermost lane as an empty hard shoulder.
30-01-2020, 04:42 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by JBR
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Personally, I will avoid the innermost lane at all times and, in addition, keep a weather-eye out for people suddenly swerving out into the second lane when they see a disabled vehicle in what used to be the hard shoulder.If all of us avoid the innermost lane, things would be a lot safer, and in so doing we would be effectively maintaining the innermost lane as an empty hard shoulder.
30-01-2020, 04:54 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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What if you had a puncture or, God forbid, a tyre blow out? At least with a puncture you can limp to the next "Safe area" lay-by, which could be up to 1½ miles down the road. With a blow out, you'd be stranded with just your "flashers" to try and keep you safe.
If I think I could 'limp on' to the next lay-by.
On the other hand, if it were for example a complete electrical failure, I'd pull in to the innermost lane (which used to be the hard shoulder), get everyone out behind the barrier, and keep well back from my car which would likely be hit by someone who is not paying attention (of which I'm sure there are many).
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