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10-09-2018, 07:15 PM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked

Originally Posted by Twink
even if the institute is correct, it is better to save 1 in 100 , than none at all in the event of an epidemic...
Hurrah!!
We have a breakthrough!!

And once more, with feeling...the 'flu jab will not stop you from getting the 'flu
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10-09-2018, 08:00 PM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked

Originally Posted by Twink55 ->
I hope you can live with yourself if a member takes your advice and then dies or becomes seriously ill after contracting the flu.
Still not getting it are you Twink. If someone here gets the flu, it's because they got the flu. The vaccine HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

People here WILL get the flu. I guarantee it. It will be a mixture of those who did have the vaccine and those who didn't. The vaccine is completely neutral in the whole proceeding. If people want to pretend or imagine that the vaccine is going to give them a magical protective glow around them then best of luck to them. They should be sure not to walk under any ladders too and watch out for the black cats.
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10-09-2018, 08:01 PM
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I got my letter today.

quote:

'Offering Fluad to all pts aged 65 as this has shown to be the most effective for this age group.

All pts aged 18-65, who are eligible, will be offered the Quadrivalent Influenza Vac which offers protection from 4 different strins of flu: Michigan, Singpore, Colorado and Phuket. Based on WHO recommendations for 2018/19.'


Finally, at the end it says:

'We invite you to join us for tea/coffee and cake after your vaccine' -

............ is this to get everyone through the door - dangling the carrot of free nourishment if you have the jab?
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10-09-2018, 08:08 PM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked

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Then perhaps you should post some of those articles, that give names and details of doctors who can confirm this. I would be happy to write to them to confirm that the articles are true.
Here you go then

A former group practice worker with a pretty damning testimony of the vaccine and of the nefarious way it is pushed on people using terror tactics and of the CDC's ignorance (cough) of the scientific published facts.

A MUST READ for all here imho


Why Smart Doctors Don’t Get Flu Shots

https://bentonintegrative.blogspot.c...-flu-shot.html
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10-09-2018, 08:23 PM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked

Originally Posted by Pesta ->
I got my letter today.

'Offering Fluad to all pts aged 65 as this has shown to be the most effective for this age group.
FYI the better to make an informed decision

FLUAD

Information from the packet insert

https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/9223/smpc

"Fluad may contain traces of eggs such as ovalbumin or chicken proteins, kanamycin and neomycin sulphate, formaldehyde, cetyltrimethylammonium bromide (CTAB), barium sulphate and hydrocortisone, which are used during the manufacturing process"

"Anxiety-related reactions, including vasovagal reactions (syncope), hyperventilation or stress-related reactions, can occur following, or even before, any vaccination as a psychogenic response to the needle injection. This can be accompanied by several neurological signs such as transient visual disturbance, paraesthesia and tonic-clonic limb movements during recovery. It is important that procedures are in place to avoid injury from faints"

"Antibody response in patients with endogenous or iatrogenic immunosuppression may be insufficient"

"A protective response may not be elicited in all vaccinees. "

"No clinical data on concomitant administration with other vaccines are available."

"If Fluad needs to be used at the same time as another vaccine, immunisation should be carried out on separate limbs. It should be noted that the adverse reactions may be intensified. "

"A higher frequency of some solicited systemic reactions has been reported in subjects vaccinated with trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine and pneumococcal vaccine compared with trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine alone."

"The immunological response may be diminished if the patient is undergoing immunosuppressant treatment."

"Following influenza vaccination, false positive results in serology tests using the ELISA method to detect antibodies against HIV1, hepatitis C and especially HTLV1 have been observed."

"Undesirable effects: A higher incidence of mild post-immunisation reactions has been reported with Fluad compared to non-adjuvanted influenza vaccines."

The following undesirable effects have been observed during clinical trials:

Very Common: Headache, Myalgia, Tenderness, pain at injection site, fatigue

Common: Nausea, Diarrhoea, Vomiting, Sweating, Arthralgia, Fever, malaise, shivering


Adverse reactions reported from post marketing surveillance are

Thrombocytopenia (some very rare cases were severe with platelet counts less than 5,000 per mm3), lymphadenopathy

Asthenia, Influenza-Like Illness (ILI).

Extensive swelling of injected limb lasting more than one week, injection-site cellulitis-like reaction (some cases of swelling, pain and redness extending more than 10 cm and lasting more than one week).

Allergic reactions including anaphylactic shock (in rare cases), anaphylaxis and angioedema

Pain in the extremity, muscular weakness.

Encephalomyelitis, Guillain-Barré Syndrome, convulsions, neuritis, neuralgia, paraesthesia, syncope, presyncope.

Generalised skin reactions including erythema multiforme, urticaria, pruritus or non-specific rash

Vasculitis with transient renal involvement





Lovely stuff ! Everything a growing boy/girl needs !
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10-09-2018, 08:45 PM
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You don't have to sell it to me Realist, I've always refused it, even when I worked in the NHS.
I'm deemed 'at risk' but still say no ta.

Aside from not believing in it, I'm allergic to egg
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10-09-2018, 09:37 PM
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I've always refused it, even when I worked in the NHS.
Good job you don't work in the USA. It's mandated for workers over there in many places. People have lost their jobs for refusing to have the jab.
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10-09-2018, 09:39 PM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked

Originally Posted by Realist ->
Here you go then

A former group practice worker with a pretty damning testimony of the vaccine and of the nefarious way it is pushed on people using terror tactics and of the CDC's ignorance (cough) of the scientific published facts.

A MUST READ for all here imho


Why Smart Doctors Don’t Get Flu Shots

https://bentonintegrative.blogspot.c...-flu-shot.html
I suppose this has nothing to do with this US company trying to promote their own business?

https://www.bentonintegrative.com/direct-primary-care
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10-09-2018, 10:50 PM
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Elderberry syrup please!
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10-09-2018, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mags ->
I suppose this has nothing to do with this US company trying to promote their own business?
Sigh . . .


12 Medical Doctors Who Decided They Could No Longer Keep Quiet About Vaccination

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/health...t-vaccination/


Professor Alvin H Moss, MD, Nephrologist, West Virginia University

"An interesting point in his testimony is that the flu vaccine is resulting in the most compensation payouts. In another video, he mentions Gardasil, a HPV vaccine, is also fast becoming a big one"


Dr. Ramon Ramos, Paediatrician

“Now it’s just mind boggling how often I encounter parents that complain of their child suddenly becoming ill and having some neurological… what they feel is neurological insult following vaccines.”


Dr. Suzanne Humphries, MD, Nephrologist (Kidney Specialist)

"even if we have a 100% vaccination rate, there will still be outbreaks of diseases like measles, if they are brought in from another country. This is because the vaccine is simply not effective enough"

Dr. Patricia Ryan

"She began questioning vaccines when more and more were added to the schedule, and her patients were getting sicker as years went by."


Dr. Jim Meehan, MD, Former Medical Journal Editor

I will no longer vaccinate my children…

- because I am a well trained medical doctor and former medical journal editor that has studied the vaccine research and analyzed both sides of the evidence.
- because I know how to read the medical literature, recognize bias and discern characteristics of good and fraudulent research.
- because I know that too much of the science supporting vaccines is fraudulent drivel bought and paid for by the vaccine manufacturers themselves.
- because I understand the risks of vaccination as well as the benefits of my children and grandchildren encountering and overcoming the wild type diseases naturally.
- because I know that diseases like mumps, measles, and chickenpox aren’t dangerous and untreatable diseases that justify the risk of injecting toxic ingredients into the tissues of my children.
- because I have seen the evidence of neurotoxicity from ingredients like aluminum, polysorbate 80, human DNA and cellular residues from the human cells lines upon which many of the live viruses are grown.
- because I’ve seen vaccine manufacturers like Merck promote what they knew was bad medicine for profit, kill 60,000 patients with Vioxx, and I have no reason to believe that they wouldn’t do the same thing with vaccines, especially when you consider they can’t be sued when their vaccines maim or kill children.
- because I believe the vaccine industry has thoroughly corrupted the science and safety of vaccines.
- because I recognize the aggressive and unreasonable tactics of a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry desperately working to maintain the illusion of vaccine safety, keep consumers consuming, grow their markets, and increase their profits.
- because I have met so many families whose children were stolen from them by the battery of vaccines administered at pediatric vaccine visits.
- because I believe the U.S. vaccination program has become a progressively dangerous assault on the health and lives of the children of America.
- because I am awake and aware, I will not vaccinate, nor will I remain silent as the pharmaceutical and medical industries pretends that vaccines are safe and effective
 
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