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11-03-2017, 02:23 PM
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Running empty double-decker buses is a great problem round here with their exhaust belching vast clouds of fumes every time they set off. These should be replaced with smaller cleaner buses perhaps on the same lines as the Turkish Dolmuses? It won't happen of course, bus companies now being privatised won't make the investment.

Another problem with exhaust pollution is of course the many traffic jams throughout our cities caused by a combination of too many vehicles and inefficient traffic flow. Over-restrictive speed limits don't help either forcing a vehicle to travel in third gear thus increasing pollution and increasing fuel use. 20mph around schools maybe, but around here we have some where there's hardly any residents living by the roads.
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11-03-2017, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd ->
Running empty double-decker buses is a great problem round here with their exhaust belching vast clouds of fumes every time they set off. These should be replaced with smaller cleaner buses perhaps on the same lines as the Turkish Dolmuses? It won't happen of course, bus companies now being privatised won't make the investment.
A lot of Sydney's bus fleet runs on compressed natural gas.

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11-03-2017, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd ->
Running empty double-decker buses is a great problem round here with their exhaust belching vast clouds of fumes every time they set off. These should be replaced with smaller cleaner buses perhaps on the same lines as the Turkish Dolmuses? It won't happen of course, bus companies now being privatised won't make the investment.

Another problem with exhaust pollution is of course the many traffic jams throughout our cities caused by a combination of too many vehicles and inefficient traffic flow. Over-restrictive speed limits don't help either forcing a vehicle to travel in third gear thus increasing pollution and increasing fuel use. 20mph around schools maybe, but around here we have some where there's hardly any residents living by the roads.


The powers that be are preoccupied with such trendy ideas whilst at the same time ignoring the real problems that you outline.

Another consequence, in my opinion, of the disappearance of common sense.
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11-03-2017, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd ->
Running empty double-decker buses is a great problem round here with their exhaust belching vast clouds of fumes every time they set off. These should be replaced with smaller cleaner buses perhaps on the same lines as the Turkish Dolmuses? It won't happen of course, bus companies now being privatised won't make the investment.

Another problem with exhaust pollution is of course the many traffic jams throughout our cities caused by a combination of too many vehicles and inefficient traffic flow. Over-restrictive speed limits don't help either forcing a vehicle to travel in third gear thus increasing pollution and increasing fuel use. 20mph around schools maybe, but around here we have some where there's hardly any residents living by the roads.
We have 20 mph limits all around here, brought in by the "" 20s plenty" brigade, OK as you say around schools ect, but we have them in cul-de- sacs , even the buses don't keep to them
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11-03-2017, 05:24 PM
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We have 20 mph limits all around here, brought in by the "" 20s plenty" brigade, OK as you say around schools ect, but we have them in cul-de- sacs , even the buses don't keep to them
Yes indeed, and another trendy idea is bus lanes.

Liverpool, apparently, recently got rid of its bus lanes with the consequence of an enormous improvement in traffic flow!

Round here they are still in vogue, it seems.
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11-03-2017, 07:00 PM
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I can see this becoming another tax harvest from the motoring crop.
Masquerading under the guise of "green measures".
How much of the revenue raised by environmental taxes has been spent on the environment?
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11-03-2017, 08:12 PM
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Yes indeed, and another trendy idea is bus lanes.

Liverpool, apparently, recently got rid of its bus lanes with the consequence of an enormous improvement in traffic flow!

Round here they are still in vogue, it seems.
That's a good point. Around here there are bus lanes that are only active during peak times. Thereafter anyone can use them but do they? Do they 'eck because we also have bus lanes that operate 24/7 and are subject to fines if you dare even inch into one even in the middle of the night when there's no buses. Another method of screwing the motorist with fines. Consequently, rather than having two lanes of traffic (say) thus easing the flow, everyone is in single file creating jams for miles back.
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11-03-2017, 08:59 PM
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That's a good point. Around here there are bus lanes that are only active during peak times. Thereafter anyone can use them but do they? Do they 'eck because we also have bus lanes that operate 24/7 and are subject to fines if you dare even inch into one even in the middle of the night when there's no buses. Another method of screwing the motorist with fines. Consequently, rather than having two lanes of traffic (say) thus easing the flow, everyone is in single file creating jams for miles back.
Done on purpose so they hope you get pi##ed off and take the bus
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11-03-2017, 09:49 PM
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I have a diesel car
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I have a diesel car
So do I, but fortunately it doesn't have a DPF or a cat.

In addition, I don't drive into the middle of Manchester, so they're not going to screw me with their additional taxes.
 
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