07-04-2020, 12:47 AM
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Picking vegetables
Lots of people want to do it .https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Britain.html
07-04-2020, 09:46 AM
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Re: Picking vegetables
Originally Posted by Muddy
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Lots of people want to do it .https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Britain.html
There are many ways of promoting it (such as providing a bonus for unemployed people who partake which doesn't have an adverse effect on their benefits). The farmer pays the state, which pays the workers...
Environmentally it makes sense not to ship in tens of thousands of people from abroad to carry out this work. Financially it makes sense not to have this money sent overseas, etc etc.
07-04-2020, 04:11 PM
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Re: Picking vegetables
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Such work should be mandatory for everybody claiming dole if they are capable of doing it. I am a firm believer in the principle that those who will not work should not eat.
07-04-2020, 09:55 PM
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Re: Picking vegetables
Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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I'm a firm believer in the alternative, Todger. If you want to eat, work for it. I know, basically the same principle.
07-04-2020, 10:55 PM
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Re: Picking vegetables
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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FWIW (which admittedly isn't much) the "won't work not eat" is from 2 Thessalonians in which Paul is giving them a bollocking for not bothering to work in the belief that Jebus would soon be making a return so why bother.
08-04-2020, 11:25 PM
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Re: Picking vegetables
HiUnfortunately the unemployed who wish to remain unemployed do not like hard work and to fill all the vacancies they would have to relocate many.
We could make a start locally by forcing those who can work to do so.
Plenty of agricultural and food chain jobs still not filled locally.
08-04-2020, 11:28 PM
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Re: Picking vegetables
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiUnfortunately the unemployed who wish to remain unemployed do not like hard work and to fill all the vacancies they would have to relocate many.
We could make a start locally by forcing those who can work to do so.
Plenty of agricultural and food chain jobs still not filled locally.
08-04-2020, 11:43 PM
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Re: Picking vegetables
Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Farmers seem able to arrange transport, food and lodgings for workers to come from overseas. Surely people on these shores could be transported even more easily?
That is not the issue, the issue is that many do not want to work.
It is hard physical labour with unsocial hours.
If we are to provide for ourselves things will have to change.
Guy cannot drive, he is Epileptic and his operation has been cancelled.
He cannot use his left arm.
He has nonetheless been accepted as a NHS Volunteer and is working from home.
Other, very fit individuals locally are not only not working but have not volunteered either.
08-04-2020, 11:49 PM
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Re: Picking vegetables
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiThat is not the issue, the issue is that many do not want to work.
It is hard physical labour with unsocial hours.
If we are to provide for ourselves things will have to change.
Guy cannot drive, he is Epileptic and his operation has been cancelled.
He cannot use his left arm.
He has nonetheless been accepted as a NHS Volunteer and is working from home.
Other, very fit individuals locally are not only not working but have not volunteered either.
Maybe it's time to redress the situation somehow. Not easy, but there's got to be a way
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