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The article quotes a spokesman saying the unit the old lady went to was not equipped to deal with complex fractures like hers. It wasn't said but I suspect osteoporosis might be a complicating issue as well. If the receptionist said what she did she was unhelpfully out of order. But it always has be borne in mind that it is the Daily Mail reporting and they would naturally be anti-NHS and pro-privatisation with US involvement.
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It won't be medically correct but think some (including me) might think of a fracture as being where the bone has cracked but stayed in place. A break being when the broken bits have actually separated and are out of place.
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The article quotes a spokesman saying the unit the old lady went to was not equipped to deal with complex fractures like hers. It wasn't said but I suspect osteoporosis might be a complicating issue as well. If the receptionist said what she did she was unhelpfully out of order. But it always has be borne in mind that it is the Daily Mail reporting and they would naturally be anti-NHS and pro-privatisation with US involvement.
It is my experience that the Daily Mail is not so much anti-NHS, but simply incompetent as journalists.

If you should download the DM app, you'll see what I mean: spelling mistakes abound and journalistic ability suggests a recent post-graduate from 'Meeja Studies'.

Having said that, I use the app most mornings and, as long as you realise these drawbacks, it can be reasonably useful - sometimes amusing!

The thing I like most about the app is that readers are free to comment. In fact, the readers' comments are often more informative than the article themselves!
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It won't be medically correct but think some (including me) might think of a fracture as being where the bone has cracked but stayed in place. A break being when the broken bits have actually separated and are out of place.
No, the correct terminology is a simple, non-displaced fracture vs. a displaced fracture.

We must get our terminology correct!
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Is it any wonder the elderly are terrified of a hospital stay (if they are lucky enough to be offered a bed). Most now believe they won't come out!! We are the invisible ones.

Has anyone noticed they don't even bother to put a television in the ward where the elderly are, They are just meant to stay quiet and stare at either the other patients or just at the wall opposite.
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No, the correct terminology is a simple, non-displaced fracture vs. a displaced fracture.

We must get our terminology correct!
Reminds me of a past forum that had a section called 'Pedants Corner' where terminologies and suchlike were discussed.
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Reminds me of a past forum that had a section called 'Pedants Corner' where terminologies and suchlike were discussed.
My apologies for being pedantic, but if incorrect terminology is used there is the possibility of misunderstanding and, worse, incorrect consequences!

Insist that a break and a fracture are two quite different things if you wish. It's no skin off my nose.
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My apologies for being pedantic, but if incorrect terminology is used there is the possibility of misunderstanding and, worse, incorrect consequences!
True. If I were in the medical profession I would be very careful to use the correct terminology.
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Is it any wonder the elderly are terrified of a hospital stay (if they are lucky enough to be offered a bed). Most now believe they won't come out!! We are the invisible ones.

Has anyone noticed they don't even bother to put a television in the ward where the elderly are, They are just meant to stay quiet and stare at either the other patients or just at the wall opposite.
Do they have WiFi? I'd be lost without my iPad ,more so than being without television .
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Do they have WiFi? I'd be lost without my iPad ,more so than being without television .
Good point.
I hadn't realised that my GP's surgery now have WiFi.
It is very useful when they're running well behind time!

I must say that I, too, would hope for WiFi if I had to stay in hospital. I feel fortunate that I never have had to before, but as we get older...
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