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In their unbridled glee at TM's disasterously poor negotiating skills the EU got a bit ahead of themselves and tried to properly Dick the UK over which was not in the spirit of negotiating with a friendly member state.

Unfortunately it has come back to bite them on the bum and is the very reason we have BJ as PM!

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Yep ....

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That may or may not be so but it was the 27 heads of state who determined the mandate Barnier had to work to

If the UK leaves with no deal and reneges on its obligations it could have wider ramifications

Farage will be irrelevant as of 1st November unless we revoke Article 50 in which case he merely be a PIA unless commands a majority in the Parliament

Whilst a no deal Brexit will cause problems within the EU, there exports to us only among to about 8% of their total worldwide exports whereas the EU counts for another 40% of our exports.

Trade will not stop. No one I know who currently drive a German car is going to stop buying German Cars. I will not stop buying Miele white good and vacuum cleaners and Europeans will still buy our quality products

Sectors with high tariffs or requiring specialist certification may be impacted and foreign companies using the UK as a route into Europe may consider their positions

Stephen Barclay seems to be panicking, desperately requesting Barnier tell the 27 that the EU need to reassess their negotiating position and give him a new mandate.The Government have also rejected the EU suggestion that there is no point in having further negotiations.

It seem no deal it almost inevitable now and the resultant effect the ultimate financial impact on the uk populace will determine the fate of the Conservative and other eurosceptic parties

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The negotiating mandate was given by the european parliament to the commission. They appointed barnier as a single factor so the 27 couldn't be played one against the other. And it worked.

You do not trade with the EU as a bloc. You trade with the members, some of which will be affected by brexit to a similare extend as the UK. Most of the 27 however will feel nothing at all because trade with the UK is non existent. A majority in the EU will not be bothered at all by the UK leaving. If anything, they are glad the UK with all their exceptions and their privileges are gone.

Those members affected by brexit have been preparing since 2016/17. They have taken measures to soften the impact. At last now the UK is preparing as well, but it seems many have believed the campaign leave lies, and cannot get over it, so are reluctant to invest in preparative measures.

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They can't force us to buy their stuff - that's your problem and the way we have been treated by the member states so far, in particular Germany, France and Ireland they can go and fck themselves as far as I'm concerned (and there will be a lot of others just like me).

This could have been an amicable divorce - easy with a comprehensive trade deal rolled forward, but the chimps that run the EU mafia decided with Macron, Merkel and Varadkar to make it as difficult as possible.

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I wont buy anything from Ireland, Germany, Spain or France anymore. I probably wont buy anything from any EU member state to be honest.

If I can get local - thats the way forward for me, and a lot of other people I know feel the same. Why should I buy stuff from member states who clubbed together with the EU mafia to try and turn our country to a colony ?

Revenge is a dish best served cold ... here it comes straight from the freezer !

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A very warped view of things, but there’s no arguing with you, so as long as it makes you happy I suppose.

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Not warped at all.

And theres you wanting to join up. Any idea what you net contributions will be ?

Funny how you hate Farage but believe every word Sturgeon says.

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This us scotland's present benefit from the EU. After independence, and regaining membership of the EU as a sovereign state, it must be even more.

Scotland's public sector makes an annual net notional contribution to the EU budget of £455 million (based on a four year average). This represents roughly 0.6% of total public sector expenditure for Scotland in 2017-18. Money that comes directly from the EU to Scottish organisations in the private sector (including universities) is not included in this calculation.

Funds received from the EU's budget are of broadly two types: pre-allocated and competitive. Finance in the form of European Investment Bank Group lending is also significant and distributed outwith the EU budget.

Common Agricultural Policy*(CAP) is by far the largest source of EU funds. Over £500 million a year comes to Scotland from the CAP in the form of direct payments to farm businesses and rural development funding. Following Brexit, short-term guarantees have been provided by the UK Government to replace most CAP funds until 2022, but no commitments have yet been made to replace CAP funding in the long term.

Structural Funds*in Scotland are worth up to €941 million across the EU budget period for use in economic development. To make full use of these funds, they must be legally committed to projects in Scotland by the end of 2020. Half of Scotland's potential structural funding is uncommitted at present. Following Brexit, the UK Government has provided short-term guarantees and proposes a UK-wide replacement fund in the longer-term.

Common Fisheries Policy*is co-financed in Scotland through the European Maritime Fisheries Fund (EMFF). Scotland is allocated 44% (€108m) of the total UK figure and £42 million - over 80% of the Scottish allocation - has been committed to projects so far.

Competitive funds*are awarded directly by European Commission to organisations and include significant research, innovation and education exchange programmes. Since 2014, €533 million of Horizon 2020 funding, €65 million of Erasmus+ funding and €58 million of Territorial Cooperation funding has been secured by Scottish organisations.

The*European Investment Bank Group*provides finance outwith the MFF 2014-20 in the form of loans. Since 2016, the EIB has signed loans worth €2.0 billion to projects in Scotland.

https://digitalpublications.parliame...ng-in-Scotland

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How many thought, that three years on that it would be a complete shamble?
We appear to be peddling hard, going no where.