06-08-2019, 05:14 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by Bread
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I wont buy anything from Ireland, Germany, Spain or France anymore. I probably wont buy anything from any EU member state to be honest.If I can get local - thats the way forward for me, and a lot of other people I know feel the same. Why should I buy stuff from member states who clubbed together with the EU mafia to try and turn our country to a colony ?
Revenge is a dish best served cold ... here it comes straight from the freezer !
However when it comes to some products, we either don’t manufacture them or their reliability is poor i will no lobger buy them
I had three new range rovers between 2007 and 2016 and each one had issues, mainly software derived. I’ve given up on them and now have a US made Ford Edge 4wd and a Japanese made Toyota 4wd hybrid. Both are excellent and reliable
Most of the guys I work with drive BMW, Audi or Mercedes and a 10% tariff is unlikely to change their preferences
Unless we start growing them on mass, people will still buy Dutch flowers although delays at points of entry may impact on their shelf life
There will be winners and losers but at the moment it seems the EU are more prepared than the UK
06-08-2019, 05:23 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by moscow
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in their unbridled glee at tm's disasterously poor negotiating skills the eu got a bit ahead of themselves and tried to properly dick the uk over which was not in the spirit of negotiating with a friendly member state.Unfortunately it has come back to bite them on the bum and is the very reason we have bj as pm!
06-08-2019, 05:27 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by Banchory
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I always buy local wherever possible if the quality of the product is good.However when it comes to some products, we either don’t manufacture them or their reliability is poor i will no lobger buy them
I had three new range rovers between 2007 and 2016 and each one had issues, mainly software derived. I’ve given up on them and now have a US made Ford Edge 4wd and a Japanese made Toyota 4wd hybrid. Both are excellent and reliable
Most of the guys I work with drive BMW, Audi or Mercedes and a 10% tariff is unlikely to change their preferences
Unless we start growing them on mass, people will still buy Dutch flowers although delays at points of entry may impact on their shelf life
There will be winners and losers but at the moment it seems the EU are more prepared than the UK
Dream on ... the EU masters won't give a toss what happens because nobody can get rid of them anyway
We can buy stuff from other countries including flowers
06-08-2019, 06:22 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Those members affected by brexit have been preparing since 2016/17. They have taken measures to soften the impact. At last now the UK is preparing as well, but it seems many have believed the campaign leave lies, and cannot get over it, so are reluctant to invest in preparative measures.
In mid-March, 32% of entrepreneurs said they were actively (largely or properly) preparing. In the summer of 2018 that was still 18% and in 2017 only 9% of the entrepreneurs were busy preparing for Brexit. In addition, 44% say they prepare a bit. In total, therefore, three-quarters of the companies are more or less involved with Brexit. The number of entrepreneurs who do not engage in any preparations at all has fallen sharply from 46 to 20%.
https://www.rtlz.nl/business/artikel...-henk-volberda
06-08-2019, 06:58 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by Solasch
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In addition, this is from march, just before you were supposed to exit. By that date three quarters of dutch businesses were prepared. By october that will be 100%. I hope the UK will be too by then, because, out you go.In mid-March, 32% of entrepreneurs said they were actively (largely or properly) preparing. In the summer of 2018 that was still 18% and in 2017 only 9% of the entrepreneurs were busy preparing for Brexit. In addition, 44% say they prepare a bit. In total, therefore, three-quarters of the companies are more or less involved with Brexit. The number of entrepreneurs who do not engage in any preparations at all has fallen sharply from 46 to 20%.
https://www.rtlz.nl/business/artikel...-henk-volberda
Until the withdrawal bill was voted down and May quit
It's a lot diifferent now youre facing the prospect of being collateral damage of a no deal Brexit because your EU masters have left you to take it on the chin while they sit watching from their comfy offices.
Ofcourse their jobs are safe for another 5 years at least unlike your dutch fishermen, port workers and flower growers.
06-08-2019, 06:59 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by Bread
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You really think businesses in the EU are prepared, ???Dream on ... the EU masters won't give a toss what happens because nobody can get rid of them anyway
We can buy stuff from other countries including flowers
There appears to be complacency in the UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49255061
We do buy flowers from other countries such as Kenya but due to the distance they are transported by air so tend to be the more expensive varieties. So which other countries were you thinking of that are close enough to keep transport costs down?
06-08-2019, 07:14 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by Banchory
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I said the EU is more prepared than the UK, that doesn’t mean that they are totally prepared but they have been preparing for some time.There appears to be complacency in the UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49255061
We do buy flowers from other countries such as Kenya but due to the distance they are transported by air so tend to be the more expensive varieties. So which other countries were you thinking of that are close enough to keep transport costs down?
The BBC again ....
My mate owns a garden centre in Wales near Caernarfon. He is more Brexit than I am and he has been buying flowers in from everywhere (including) Holland for years before we had the referendum. He says Brexit wont affect him one bit - he has already sorted his suppliers out and his done since ages.
We also grow a lot of them here ... shock !
Besides a lot of flowers we import are the exotic varieties so they are expensive anyway - transport costs on top of orchids don't deter young Romeo's when they might get their leg over.
Sometimes they throw in a box of chocolates as well - usually Swiss chocolates so they should save a bit on the Belgian stuff.
I don't think a wealthy socialist with a nice house, various out buildings and a walk in pantry would worry too much about an extra £2 on a bunch of freesias
Besides we control what comes into our country!
06-08-2019, 07:38 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by Banchory
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We do buy flowers from other countries such as Kenya but due to the distance they are transported by air so tend to be the more expensive varieties. So which other countries were you thinking of that are close enough to keep transport costs down?
The UK is the country where 15% of "dutch" flowers are exported to. Another 15% to france and 30% of our exported flowers go to germany (92% of flowers sold in germany come from the netherlands).
Post brexit you can import your own roses from kenya, but since you are a minor buyer, you pay a higher price. The netherlands import € 0.8 bn worth in flowers, and export flowers € 3.8 bn worth.
If you're going to import your own roses from kenya, we deduct that amount from our imports and exports, so on balance, there is no change.
06-08-2019, 08:19 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by cuphalffull
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How many thought, that three years on that it would be a complete shamble?We appear to be peddling hard, going no where.
06-08-2019, 08:43 PM
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Re: Remainers Didn't Know What they were Voting For!
Originally Posted by cuphalffull
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How many thought, that three years on that it would be a complete shamble?We appear to be peddling hard, going no where.
Mad bCow riding a bike so maybe she did'nt know which way
to turn the pedals??
Regards Donkeyman!
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