01-03-2020, 04:58 PM
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Re: I don't want a smart meter
Originally Posted by Bruce
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If you have solar on your roof a smart meter is absolutely essential. If you don't have one you are giving your surplus power away for free to the electricity company.The only real price danger with smart meters is if the companies start charging for apparent power rather than real power. (ie V x I instead of V x ICosØ - I think that is right)
There is no evidence world wide that smart meters lead to higher electricity bills, the evidence is that power bills remain the same or marginally less.
What smart meter do do is provide an incentive to use power at off peak times which means that less generation capacity is needed - a lot of that capacity sits idle for most of the day.
01-03-2020, 05:04 PM
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Re: I don't want a smart meter
Originally Posted by Besoeker
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Why would you want to?
01-03-2020, 05:08 PM
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Re: I don't want a smart meter
Originally Posted by LongDriver
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I don't, because I am on a single phase domestic supply.
But that doesn't mean you can't have loads that are not unity power factor or don't have significant harmonic content.
01-03-2020, 09:29 PM
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Re: I don't want a smart meter
Originally Posted by LongDriver
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To record the 'wattless' current a trivector meter will be required and a smart meter is not one of those. With modern IC controlled domestic appliances and lighting, the power factor will be so close to unity it wont be worth the power suppliers going to all the expense of trivectoring each domestic consumer.
https://www.reo.co.uk/being_smart_about_smart_meters
Originally Posted by Besoeker
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Why would you want to?You get charged for kWh, not kVAh.
01-03-2020, 09:35 PM
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Re: I don't want a smart meter
Regardless of what the electricity company says, there is no legal requirement to have a smart meter installed.This link is the official guidance on smart meters by Ofgem https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/consumers/h...de-your-rights
and if you click on the button that says 'Show' on the question 'Are smart meters mandatory?', you will see the response is 'No'.
02-07-2020, 09:45 AM
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Re: I don't want a smart meter
I get the impression those of us who don't want a smart meter will be 'frozen out'
I have been with OVO energy for many years and have always sent in my meter readings on time on the last day of the month and made sure there was plenty of credit in my account going into the winter .
The website has changed and when I tried to submit my meter readings for June (2 of them because I have economy 7) I was unable to do so because there was only one 'box' to enter the numbers and a note saying I had already submitted the number for this month
When I looked again yesterday an estimated bill had been generated for a third more electricity than I normally use
A smart meter would be no good here anyway in an area with a poor mobile signal (my phone is 2G)
The final insult was a 'sorry you are leaving' email from OVO telling me how to take a final reading from my smart meter
OVO used to be a great company but took over other Electricity Providers and became 'too big for their boots' with little thought for loyal customers.
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