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Lindyloo

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isle of wight

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21-01-2018, 11:40 PM

Frack Off!

Anyone got opinions on fracking? I went to an anti-fracking meeting yesterday and learned that the criteria to obtain a licence for fracking has changed radically, that the waste matter will create super-serious pollution and possible lethal waste for people. Is that the way we want to go? What happened to wind farms, tidal energy..............clean energy???

I'd like to find a way to uncover the lies and corruption I fear may underlie this whole issue.

Purwell

Chatterbox

North Herts, England

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22-01-2018, 12:10 AM

Re: Frack Off!

Nuclear energy is the only way to go, all the other ways are just window dressing.

AnnieS

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United Kingdom

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22-01-2018, 01:30 AM

Re: Frack Off!

Originally Posted by Purwell ->

Nuclear energy is the only way to go, all the other ways are just window dressing.

I agree. France is covered with nuclear power stations but nobody here worries about that so why don't we have more? It works and the risks are known and can be managed by strict controls. Unlike fracking where we have no idea of the long term effects on the earth's core and on the environment.

swimfeeders

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Shropshire

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22-01-2018, 06:59 AM

Re: Frack Off!

Hi

We need gas and oil, going all electric will be hugely expensive.

Renewables are expensive to install, but then operating costs are minimal.

Nuclear has huge issue with waste, every Government here in the UK has flunked the issue, nobody wants it and the costs of building a facility will be enormous.

Uncle Joe

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Brighton UK

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22-01-2018, 07:43 AM

Re: Frack Off!

Originally Posted by Purwell ->

Nuclear energy is the only way to go, all the other ways are just window dressing.

And just what do we do with all the radioactive waste thar is generated from nuclear energy???

summer

Chatterbox

yorkshire

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22-01-2018, 09:19 AM

Re: Frack Off!

Originally Posted by Purwell ->

Nuclear energy is the only way to go, all the other ways are just window dressing.

Hmm I seem to remember Margaret Thatcher telling us all that years ago but she was shouted down.

Uncle Joe

Chatterbox

Brighton UK

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22-01-2018, 10:07 AM

Re: Frack Off!

Originally Posted by summer ->

Hmm I seem to remember Margaret Thatcher telling us all that years ago but she was shouted down.

Yes, she was the expert on BSE wasn't she???

Bruce

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Wollongong, Australia

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22-01-2018, 11:48 AM

Re: Frack Off!

We are the world's second biggest exporter of natural gas but it costs $13 a gigajoule here yet we can buy our gas in Japan for $8 a gigajoule. Is that daft or what?

BTW NSW and Victoria have a moratorium on fracking because the National Party doesn't like it on their farm land.

Omah

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Ludlow

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22-01-2018, 12:09 PM

Re: Frack Off!

UK fracking firm plans to dump wastewater in the sea

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...r-in-sea-ineos

Green campaigners and people living near prospective sites have highlighted the potential environmental impacts of fracking, such as contamination of water supplies, minor tremors and local air pollution. But the issue of where the huge quantities of resulting waste water is disposed has received less attention.

Shale companies pump water, chemicals and sand at high pressure underground to fracture shale rock and release the gas within, but each well can use as much as 6m gallons of water. Between 20 and 40% flows back to the surface, containing salts, chemicals and naturally occurring radioactive material which the Environment Agency (EA) says is likely to be classified as radioactive waste.

Two years ago, shale firm Cuadrilla withdrew an application for a permit to frack in Lancashire after the EA tightened up the rules over safe disposal. The change came after 2m gallons of wastewater had already been discharged into the Manchester ship canal.

2m gallons of radioactive waste may be a drop in the ocean but hundreds, even thousands, of wells, each contaminating 6m gallons of water, represent a threat to life .....