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15-09-2019, 01:40 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Meg ->
I agree 'and we were lied to' assumes we are all gullible and incapable of forming our own opinions.

No one 'lied' to me, my opinions were not based on the words of either side in the argument but on years of my own observation.
Don't forget, "unbiased" observation.
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
My reasoning is a combination of hope that an election
will achieve a result where a new party combined with the
remnants of an old one will produce a working majority
that will end all these shenanigans in parliament Floydy?
OK nothing is certain, especially given he mental state of
most of POSHOC! But l believe that if we aim at winning
the election, and aim at getting an election we can achieve
those aims?
That's what I thought you meant .....

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
I also am pessimistic and disappointed at times, mostly about
how a lot of my fellow countrymen think and behave nowadays!

Regards Donkeyman!
I'm with you on that, too .....
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15-09-2019, 01:46 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Dodge ->
to allow the EU to have a say and control on UK laws and it's borders. He admitted being very passionate about those two hence why he joined Leave.
As the EU is about unifying the law for all people living in the member states, I can understand boris' passion. He and his kind strongly believe the law should be different on the rich and on common people. He recently proved that by considering to break the law about him, as pm and the executive of the HoC, asking for an extension on A50.
He is acrook, a rich one, but still a crook.
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15-09-2019, 01:54 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by MargaretF ->
I agree with you Meg - I voted to leave based on my own views over the years that we have been in the EU. I didn't even know about the bus with the message on it etc. until recently when it came up as a so called lie.

Surely most people are capable of making a decision without having to be told what to think by politicians and/or the media - or maybe not ...
You would think so wouldn't you Margaret
Maybe some remain voters needed to be told what to think,
a lot of them are younger people and not aware of what has happened over the years with regard to the expansion of 'The Common Market ' .


I have yet to meet a Leave voter who took notice of anything said during the referendum campaign in fact many like myself voted not to stay in the Common Market in 1975.
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15-09-2019, 01:59 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Yes I'd vote again, exactly the same way I did the first time. OUT....
I also voted out in the 70s.
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15-09-2019, 02:41 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Roxy ->
Yes I'd vote again, exactly the same way I did the first time. OUT....
I also voted out in the 70s.
Pity the 2016 referendum wasn't for women only. 51% of females voted remain, 49% for leave.
The 2016 referendum outcome was determined by men, 55% of them voted to leave, 45% to remain. To put it more pronounced, if women hadn't 'interfered' the outcome 55/45 would have been more conclusive.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...tes-by-gender/

Age and level of education also are very telling.


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15-09-2019, 04:21 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Pity the 2016 referendum wasn't for women only. 51% of females voted remain, 49% for leave.
The 2016 referendum outcome was determined by men, 55% of them voted to leave, 45% to remain. To put it more pronounced, if women hadn't 'interfered' the outcome 55/45 would have been more conclusive.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...tes-by-gender/

Age and level of education also are very telling.
You dont need education to know if you are better or worse
off than previously Solly!
Unfortunately the majority thought they were worse off?
I wonder why??
Regards Donkeyman!
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15-09-2019, 04:28 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
You dont need education to know if you are better or worse
off than previously Solly!
Unfortunately the majority thought they were worse off?
I wonder why??
Regards Donkeyman!
You just substantiated the table in my previous post. Thank you.
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15-09-2019, 04:43 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
You dont need education to know if you are better or worse
off than previously Solly!
Unfortunately the majority thought they were worse off?
I wonder why??
Regards Donkeyman!
So when we leave and those who thought they were worse off find out that they have become even more worse off, what then? Who will they blame when they find out the wealthy advocates of leave have all made fortunes on shorting the pound
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15-09-2019, 04:46 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
So when we leave and those who thought they were worse off find out that they have become even more worse off, what then? Who will they blame when they find out the wealthy advocates of leave have all made fortunes on shorting the pound
Perhaps donkeyman is one of those advocates who stands to make a fortune?
 
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