Re: The Bible bits they removed
Originally Posted by
malcolm
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You are wrong !
You cannot tell other people what they should or should not believe in.
Maybe re-read my post Malcolm.
I haven't told anyone what they should or should not believe. I patently have accepted that they DO believe in something, I have simply highlighted that if they claim that something is "god" then that is a concept that has been handed to them by other men.
People are free to believe what they wish but there is a marked difference between that belief in something and the knowledge of what it actually is. The belief comes from ones inner self, from its response to things it experiences that are not physical, from ones heart. The knowledge for many, currently comes from a corrupt church peddling a "snake-oil" bible designed to take those genuine beliefs from you and use them to control you and your behaviours. This gives them the power they wield and mostly abuse.
Originally Posted by
malcolm
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I would never wish to disturb them by pushing my long held beliefs and trying to overturn theirs.
Again, I am not trying to overturn their experiences and beliefs, those are good things. I am simply trying to help them find a better and more truthful frame for those beliefs.
If you imagine someone sitting in a big old mansion, perhaps spending the night there. Its cold and eerie and during the night the person sees "something", senses "something" and is changed as a person from that experience.
How then should they frame that experience. What process should they use to get to the truth of what happened? If they go off blindly believing what others state they could end up with one of many explanations:
One school of people will suggest you saw a ghost and will explain that lost souls are wandering freely around us like grey whispers in the night.
Another school of people will suggest that you've seen an angel or other divine being.
Yet another school of people will suggest you have some kind of medical imbalance/condition which resulted in you "seeing" something which seems tangible but which really isn't.
And so on
The point is, what actual research should one do for themselves to identify how to frame the spiritual experiences we have? Should we blindly accept the explanation of a rather corrupt church who present to us a book that they have purposefully ripped pages from to hide certain truths?
Many have been that blind.
I too was that blind
But now I see !