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I agree that they are needed but I think they should keep it simple rather than getting sidetracked. I'm sure there are loads of individuals with pound signs in their eyes influencing this to be far more complex than necessary. The quest for self-interested profit over efficacy sinks many a public project.27-06-2019, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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If there is a way for someone to make a buck, we plebs are always available.
28-06-2019, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Not the simple to forge things but a thing like a driving license that can be read in the same way that credit and debit cards are read and linked back to a common data base.
The only problem with them is that they are issued by the states not the Federal Government but they are accepted as photo ID everywhere.
If you are concerned about non drivers - never fear the same body that issues driving licence will provide you with a NSW Photo ID (presumably the same in all states)
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/lic...hoto-card.html
Originally Posted by realspeed
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ID thefts would sore and police would have to spend more time on it as if they don't have enough to do at the moment.Like most ideas, sound great at the outset until looked into in greater depth and the consequences. Forgeries would be rife and just think of the time waste deciding if an ID card was genuine or not
28-06-2019, 02:07 AM
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BTW the digital drivers licence (on trial now) are supposed to be even more secure.https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/safety...rivers_licence
28-06-2019, 07:57 AM
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HiAll ID Cards are forgeable.
Document Verification Training takes a very long time.
A good forgery costs money, a lot of money.
A perfectly acceptable ID Card costs around £25 per unit when done in bulk.
Here in the UK they overpriced them and insisted the public should pay.
This was because certain high level Politicians were opposed to them.
This was against professional advice that giving them away free would save Government money.
Such is life.
28-06-2019, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiAll ID Cards are forgeable.
Document Verification Training takes a very long time.
A good forgery costs money, a lot of money.
A perfectly acceptable ID Card costs around £25 per unit when done in bulk.
Here in the UK they overpriced them and insisted the public should pay.
This was because certain high level Politicians were opposed to them.
This was against professional advice that giving them away free would save Government money.
Such is life.
Verification? What's to verify? When the card is put into a card reader the database churns out what is stored on the database. THAT is what needs to be accessable. The physical card is trivial, just like a bank card, it's what it gives access to.
28-06-2019, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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What IS coming down the pipe isn't really an ID card, it's an electronic key to access a central data base. Forgeable? No. Copying probably but what's the point? Verification? What's to verify? When the card is put into a card reader the database churns out what is stored on the database. THAT is what needs to be accessable. The physical card is trivial, just like a bank card, it's what it gives access to.
Your ignorance of how things work is stunning.
28-06-2019, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Possibly, but more than made up for by my charm, personality, and good looks!
Fair Comment
The World Experts in creating False IDs and also detecting them, are Mossad.
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