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Scotland Ban Smacking

It is now a crime to smack your child. I suppose the law will be passed in England soon too.

I was slapped as a child and I have no ill feelings towards my Mother as I believe she was acting in my best interests, the odd slap helped to teach me right from wrong and I turned out ok.

Of course I don't agree with beatings but sometimes a short, sharp slap on the bottom or the legs is the only message that some children understand as words or other forms of discipline don't always seem to get through.

It has been said that smacking can make the children aggressive, it certainly never made me aggressive.

I think there is a fine line between discipline and abuse.
Should't that be up to the parents how they choose to discipline their own children as they see fit?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-49908849
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03-10-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lion Queen ->
It is now a crime to smack your child. I suppose the law will be passed in England soon too.

I was slapped as a child and I have no ill feelings towards my Mother as I believe she was acting in my best interests, the odd slap helped to teach me right from wrong and I turned out ok.

Of course I don't agree with beatings but sometimes a short, sharp slap on the bottom or the legs is the only message that some children understand as words or other forms of discipline don't always seem to get through.

It has been said that smacking can make the children aggressive, it certainly never made me aggressive.

I think there is a fine line between discipline and abuse.
Should't that be up to the parents how they choose to discipline their own children as they see fit?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-49908849
Exactly - a big difference from a quickly forgotten smack and kicking the shit out of a child or even worse chucking them into a cupboard or in some cases, a cage. If a child was persistently reaching for some dangerous or harmful object despite instructions not to do so, would you keep on trying the same non-effective tactic or give their hands a quick slap?
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03-10-2019, 02:09 PM
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Exactly - a big difference from a quickly forgotten smack and kicking the shit out of a child or even worse chucking them into a cupboard or in some cases, a cage. If a child was persistently reaching for some dangerous or harmful object despite instructions not to do so, would you keep on trying the same non-effective tactic or give their hands a quick slap?

Exactly - just another piece of nonsense from the party led by the poisoned dwarf!
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03-10-2019, 03:10 PM
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My upbringing was by two parents who were strict but fair. I received the odd smack across the back of the legs, although it was quickly forgotten. Usually it was the stern, disapproving voice that was enough to achieve the objective at the time. In later years I never thought of this as wrong, it was part of learning discipline and also respect for what was right and wrong and for my parents. Fast-forward many decades to when I had a daughter. She was a trained NNEB nursery nurse (Nursery Nursing Examination Board) working with pre-school birth to five-year-old children. We often discussed her training and days at work. I always disagreed with her when informed she was not allowed to smack children, instead she was taught to use a stern tone of voice and facial expression denoting disapproval. My comment always was that occasional smacks I received as a child did me no harm. However, in the course of discussing this the basic reasons behind not smacking emerged and is something I saw and could understand.

While I reckoned my experience of being smacked did me no harm, that was me and not another child, one who perhaps thought differently or had a different upbringing. We are all similar but so very different and a child who was smacked could very easily learn, and we all learn by example often from parents and those around us, that the way to make someone do what we want them to is by using physical violence. The result is that child has learned by example about physical violence as a way of getting what is wanted so may well go on to use violence as an adult.

It is basic psychology and thinking about it in that way itís possible to see why my daughter was trained that way. The training she received was in how to look after other peopleís children and her own too, when that time came. If an adult has to resort to smacking a child then it is the adult at fault as they have had to resort to that physical action.
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03-10-2019, 03:32 PM
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My dad hit us all a lot he was an angry man we were scared of dad . Mind you we 7 kids were an awful lot and probably deserved dad's temper . 5 boys and 2 girls . He was a shouty dad too and liked to use a stick on us . But although it was harsh we grew up decent hardworking people .

I did smack my kids on the legs which I now regret deeply . My grandchildren will never be and have never been smacked they are beautiful polite girls .

I do believe boundaries need to be set . I dont believe children should receive THE BEST of everything or everything they want .

I dont know what the answer is but I hate violence and I hate bullies
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03-10-2019, 03:45 PM
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My dad hit us all a lot he was an angry man we were scared of dad . Mind you we 7 kids were an awful lot and probably deserved dad's temper . 5 boys and 2 girls . He was a shouty dad too and liked to use a stick on us . But although it was harsh we grew up decent hardworking people .

I did smack my kids on the legs which I now regret deeply . My grandchildren will never be and have never been smacked they are beautiful polite girls .

I do believe boundaries need to be set . I dont believe children should receive THE BEST of everything or everything they want .

I dont know what the answer is but I hate violence and I hate bullies
Perhaps the reason for you being that way is as a result of how you describe your childhood? Had you been a different child that could so easily have gone a different way with you learning physical violence by example as I mentioned.

Personally I have no time for violence and believe in the need for boundaries in all behaviour with consequences for failing to keep within them, and also respect for other people. Today's ways seem to be where the exact opposite is the case, with the resulting problems we see in society. A lot of parents will take the easy way out of bringing up youngsters which does them and society no favours whatsoever.
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03-10-2019, 04:34 PM
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Is it just me that thought this was made illegal years ago?
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03-10-2019, 04:40 PM
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Is it just me that thought this was made illegal years ago?
Yes, you are correct it was made illegal a while ago except under certain circumstances, see link below which explains more:

https://www.localsolicitors.com/fami...ing-your-child


If it is a childminder or nursery worker looking after other people's children it is illegal under any circumstances, unless the parent has given permission, for that to happen:

https://childlawadvice.org.uk/inform...king-children/
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03-10-2019, 05:02 PM
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At what stage does a firm and cautionary/advisory tap become a smack?
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At what stage does a firm and cautionary/advisory tap become a smack?
According to the links I posted previously that is a 'grey area' of the law as 'reasonable punishment' has not been defined within the law on smacking children.
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