31-03-2021, 11:05 AM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
Originally Posted by pauline3
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I don’t see anyone on this thread, who thinks the copper has a right to murder.an unarmed suspect.Nope, I don’t see one.
31-03-2021, 11:16 AM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
[QUOTE=bakerman;2064565]Perhaps not BUT there are plenty of people who believe that resisting arrest has consequences which can (and should ?) result in death even when the suspect is UNARMED.[/QUOTEThere are consequences to resisting arrest,.if it results in a suspect being murdered by a police officer, if that is the case,
That was the consequence of him resisting arrest, and following his own path of lawlessness,no one wanted to see him murdered ,in this case he met with the wrong cop ,because he decided not to follow the law, which led up to this horrific death....which will be decided in court if it was murder or not.
31-03-2021, 11:21 AM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
Originally Posted by pauline3
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There are consequences to resisting arrest,.if it results in a suspect being murdered by a police officer, if that is the case,That was the consequence of him resisting arrest, and following his own path of lawlessness,no one wanted to see him murdered ,in this case he met with the wrong cop ,because he decided not to follow the law, which led up to this horrific death....which will be decided in court if it was murder or not.
31-03-2021, 11:26 AM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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It was up to the court to decide whether Floyd was guilty of "following a path of lawlessness", not you nor a police officer.
Who said anything about the police officer?
The cops were called by the shop assistants, because of the fake money...
He would probably still be alive if he hadn’t broken the law, which he did,
Why else would the cops have arrested him,if he hadn’t broken the law?
It wasn’t me who had decided that he broke the law.
He was arrested a number of times, drug and theft related crimes....so he was law unto himself.
On his own path of going against the law.
Unfortunately it cost him his life....this is what can and does happen, when you go against the law.
If he had been a law abiding citizen, he would probably still be alive, instead he chose to go his own way!
Dealing in drugs and theft is going against and breaking the law.
He also served time in prison, so I guess the court must have decided he went against the law then.....
He had a string of crimes including a firearm, according to some searches I have found out about him.
31-03-2021, 01:00 PM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
Originally Posted by bakerman
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Today, in the trial of ex-police officer Derek Chauvin, witnesses described how they tried to get to police officer to take his knee off George Floyd's neck and how they screamed at him, "Stop. You're killing him". Another witness, an off duty para-medic , described how she tried to get Chauvin to release "the torture of Floyd" and how even after Floyd stopped twitching , Chauvin continued to apply pressure on Floyd's neck "For a full 2 minutes After one of the police officers said. He has no pulse".
Many of the witnesses broke down and cried on the stand as they described the murder of George Floyd. One witness said she is still having trouble sleeping because she said she should have "physically intervened".
It has been widely reported that Chauvin ground his knee into Floyd's neck for 8 minutes 28 seconds. With todays film we saw that the actual time was 9 minutes 49 seconds.
The defense attorney tried, and failed to say that much of the time Chauvin had his knee on Floyds shoulder blade.
31-03-2021, 01:07 PM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
Originally Posted by pauline3
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What I don’t understand is, he resisted the police officers, when they tried to get him in the car handcuffed, he said he was claustrophobic?Yet was in his own car, when confronted by the 2 shop assistants ,regarding the counterfeit £20 dollar note.
Unfortunately if he hadn’t resisted, he may still be alive today,..
The police officer who had him on the ground, with knee on neck, restricting his air supply until death, was wrong, he must have known he couldn’t breath.
This is what can happen ,when you break the law.
Unfortunately he resisted arrest and these were the consequences to his actions.
31-03-2021, 01:11 PM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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You're right. What's more no mention is now being made to the very real threatening behaviour of the growing number of people crowding around interfering with the arrest that resulted in a situation where it was left to one policemen to deal with a very dangerous criminal.
From my reading he was a very dangerous man, he was a big guy as well!!.
31-03-2021, 01:13 PM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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It was NOT murder.
When someone struggles to breathe because someone is preventing them from doing so, and subsequently dies because the person continued to put pressure on the victim so they couldn't breathe - then its murder.
31-03-2021, 01:16 PM
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Re: Witnessing a murder
Originally Posted by Pixie Knuckles
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It was. When someone struggles to breathe because someone is preventing them from doing so, and subsequently dies because the person continued to put pressure on the victim so they couldn't breathe - then its murder.
Going from what I saw, he wouldn’t release his knee from his neck, I don’t understand why he didn’t?
He must have known he couldn’t breath...
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