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Re: Corbyns back !!

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
True Bread!

I do believe that it (socialism) cannot work, successfully, in a democracy.

The only places where they have power (China, the EU, etc) are the ones where you can't vote them out.

We are led to believe that Russia has changed, until we see the games that Putin is playing to stay in power for ever!

We are not born equal, imagine not having anyone with the push to create companies, jobs, et cetera!

Wow!
Russia absolutely HAS TOTALLY changed since the end of the USSR in 1995.

It was Barack Hussein that in effect reopened hostilities with Russia in order to assist domestic problems and because Russia was confronting terrorist attacks on Syria - that has resulted in modern day Russia having to adopt defensive measures.

Russia could have been one of the Wests greatest allies in the so far not recognised (or realised?) war that we are engaged in today.
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06-04-2021, 01:24 PM
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Re: Corbyns back !!

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
True Bread!

I do believe that it (socialism) cannot work, successfully, in a democracy.

The only places where they have power (China, the EU, etc) are the ones where you can't vote them out.

We are led to believe that Russia has changed, until we see the games that Putin is playing to stay in power for ever!

We are not born equal, imagine not having anyone with the push to create companies, jobs, et cetera!

Wow!
I agree with the sentiment but the facts don't suggest agreement.

If you're suggesting that China and Russia don't have anyone with the push to create companies and jobs you might like to explain the number of Russian oligarchs or the number of Chinese billionaires?
Yes billionaires.
China created a record number last year at 257 giving them a total of 878 billionaires.
(That figure is currently at 1058 and rising apparently.)
That's more than the USA's 659 as of 2020.

You might also like to explain how - if jobs aren't being created - China has such a large middle class and why the Chinese have so much disposable cash in terms of savings etc?
Before the pandemic China saw 155 million outward-bound tourists which is a heck of a lot of spending on holidays.
By comparison the USA saw under 45 million outward-bound tourists in the same year.
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06-04-2021, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spitfire ->
I thought Nye Bevan had a say in that.
That's quite right Spitty !!
But Atlee was his boss !
Bevan did the legwork !
Imagine if labour hadn't got in then ??
Kids would still be dying of measles etc !

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06-04-2021, 01:44 PM
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Re: Corbyns back !!

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Russia absolutely HAS TOTALLY changed since the end of the USSR in 1995.

It was Barack Hussein that in effect reopened hostilities with Russia in order to assist domestic problems and because Russia was confronting terrorist attacks on Syria - that has resulted in modern day Russia having to adopt defensive measures.

Russia could have been one of the Wests greatest allies in the so far not recognised (or realised?) war that we are engaged in today.
I wouldn't want an ally like Stalin, he was going to join Hitler against
us !! Till Hitler made his BIG mistake !!
I suspect Putin is not much better ?

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06-04-2021, 01:57 PM
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Re: Corbyns back !!

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I wouldn't want an ally like Stalin, he was going to join Hitler against
us !! Till Hitler made his BIG mistake !!
I suspect Putin is not much better ?

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Hitler's biggest mistake was to attempt genocide of the wrong nation and race.
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Re: Corbyns back !!

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Hitler's biggest mistake was to attempt genocide of the wrong nation and race.
That was only a minor mistake compared with what happened
when he attacked Russia ??

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That was only a minor mistake compared with what happened
when he attacked Russia ??

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That is a matter of opinion. It was for him as far as WW2 is concerned but absolutely not from a global perspective.
 
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