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10-04-2021, 02:49 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
The potential of empty shelves was why Boris extended the delay on regulatory checks so it’s Brexiteer hysteria

The EU can mote easily make up the shortfall as the USA, in DGG oak and other countries are prioritising trade deals with them ahead of deal with the UK

Also so far we’ve achieved no substantial benefits with the trade deals we have agreed
That's because of EU rules not UK rules - thats what Boris signed up to and why I want to tear up the arrangement.

The last thing the EU needs is an FTA with the USA - the USA would cause the CAP to implode for a start with its imports of agricultural products.

The huge benefit we have on our trade deals with other countries is that they benefit the UK only not 27 other countries and most importantly, Germany. Being outside the rules of the single market opens our scope for trade enormously as we are not bound by imports having to comply with EU standards (most of them designed to prevent imports from other countries and bind us to the EU anyway).

Over the next few months we will start to see the real benefits of UK trade policy when we deregulate and improve, while attracting more favourable markets on more favourable terms.
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10-04-2021, 03:04 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

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That's because of EU rules not UK rules - thats what Boris signed up to and why I want to tear up the arrangement.

The last thing the EU needs is an FTA with the USA - the USA would cause the CAP to implode for a start with its imports of agricultural products.

The huge benefit we have on our trade deals with other countries is that they benefit the UK only not 27 other countries and most importantly, Germany. Being outside the rules of the single market opens our scope for trade enormously as we are not bound by imports having to comply with EU standards (most of them designed to prevent imports from other countries and bind us to the EU anyway).

Over the next few months we will start to see the real benefits of UK trade policy when we deregulate and improve, while attracting more favourable markets on more favourable terms.

*In July 2018, Commission President Juncker reached a political agreement with President Trump to avoid further escalation on the tariff front. The Joint EU-US Statement adopted upon President Juncker’s visit to the White House stated that the EU and US agreed to work together toward, first, zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers, and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods, as well as to reduce barriers and increase trade in services, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, medical products, as well as soybeans. Second, EU and US agreed to strengthen strategic cooperation with respect to energy. Third, the partners agreed to launch a close dialogue on standards in order to ease trade, reduce bureaucratic obstacles, and slash costs. Finally, they voiced a commitment to join forces to protect American and European companies better from unfair global trade practices, to reform the WTO and to address unfair trading practices.
On 11 November 2020, the Parliament's INTA Committee approved the mini-tariff agreement with the US with no amendments.
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10-04-2021, 03:07 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

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Over the next few months we will start to see the real benefits of UK trade policy when we deregulate and improve, while attracting more favourable markets on more favourable terms.
If you want to import inferior products, nobody will have problems with that. However, to export you have to comply with the rules of the buying party. Over 40% of your export is to the EU, so these will still have to comply with EU rules, otherwise they will be rejected.
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10-04-2021, 04:30 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

Originally Posted by Bread ->
That's because of EU rules not UK rules - thats what Boris signed up to and why I want to tear up the arrangement.

The last thing the EU needs is an FTA with the USA - the USA would cause the CAP to implode for a start with its imports of agricultural products.

The huge benefit we have on our trade deals with other countries is that they benefit the UK only not 27 other countries and most importantly, Germany. Being outside the rules of the single market opens our scope for trade enormously as we are not bound by imports having to comply with EU standards (most of them designed to prevent imports from other countries and bind us to the EU anyway).

Over the next few months we will start to see the real benefits of UK trade policy when we deregulate and improve, while attracting more favourable markets on more favourable terms.
I think the EU is quite capable of blowing the CAP apart by itself, Bread. From today's DE (scroll down to the 2pm update):

French farmers across the country protested against the EU's latest damaging plan to reform its Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), sparking calls for France to leave the bloc immediately.

French farmers walled up the public finance centre in Millau with tires on Thursday.

Similar actions took place in front of the tax centres of a dozen towns in Aveyron to protest against the CAP which provides for a reduction in aid.
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10-04-2021, 04:39 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

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I think the EU is quite capable of blowing the CAP apart by itself, Bread. From today's DE (scroll down to the 2pm update):

French farmers across the country protested against the EU's latest damaging plan to reform its Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), sparking calls for France to leave the bloc immediately.

French farmers walled up the public finance centre in Millau with tires on Thursday.

Similar actions took place in front of the tax centres of a dozen towns in Aveyron to protest against the CAP which provides for a reduction in aid.
Good good
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10-04-2021, 05:05 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

Originally Posted by Percy Vere ->
I think the EU is quite capable of blowing the CAP apart by itself, Bread. From today's DE (scroll down to the 2pm update):

French farmers across the country protested against the EU's latest damaging plan to reform its Common Agricultural Policy (CAP), sparking calls for France to leave the bloc immediately.

French farmers walled up the public finance centre in Millau with tires on Thursday.

Similar actions took place in front of the tax centres of a dozen towns in Aveyron to protest against the CAP which provides for a reduction in aid.

Going by the photographs I would say: ireland?
You seem to have a homefront too, isn't it?
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10-04-2021, 05:05 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

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You liked that irish bus burning too?
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10-04-2021, 05:19 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

Originally Posted by Bread ->
That's because of EU rules not UK rules - thats what Boris signed up to and why I want to tear up the arrangement.

The last thing the EU needs is an FTA with the USA - the USA would cause the CAP to implode for a start with its imports of agricultural products.

The huge benefit we have on our trade deals with other countries is that they benefit the UK only not 27 other countries and most importantly, Germany. Being outside the rules of the single market opens our scope for trade enormously as we are not bound by imports having to comply with EU standards (most of them designed to prevent imports from other countries and bind us to the EU anyway).

Over the next few months we will start to see the real benefits of UK trade policy when we deregulate and improve, while attracting more favourable markets on more favourable terms.
So you want to trade with the EU on WTA terms

The US/EU relationship has moved on since Trump was kicked out of the White House, do try to keep up.

The deals we have are just rolled over versions of the EU ones except for the Japanese one where they used the UK’s weakened position to gain some advantage and gave us access for cheese when 90% of their population have an intolerance to it.

Are you suggesting we deregulate standards such as those for food, medicine, electrical, vehicles etc to reduce manufacturing costs or is it to be workers rights and safety standards to reduce labour costs. If none of the aforementioned then what is it that we will deregulate and on what evidence do you base your assertion that we will be seeing benefits in the next few months. The forecast growth figures merely suggest recovery from the effects of the pandemic.
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10-04-2021, 07:16 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

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So you want to trade with the EU on WTA terms

The US/EU relationship has moved on since Trump was kicked out of the White House, do try to keep up.

The deals we have are just rolled over versions of the EU ones except for the Japanese one where they used the UK’s weakened position to gain some advantage and gave us access for cheese when 90% of their population have an intolerance to it.

Are you suggesting we deregulate standards such as those for food, medicine, electrical, vehicles etc to reduce manufacturing costs or is it to be workers rights and safety standards to reduce labour costs. If none of the aforementioned then what is it that we will deregulate and on what evidence do you base your assertion that we will be seeing benefits in the next few months. The forecast growth figures merely suggest recovery from the effects of the pandemic.

Deregulate from the EU yes because we can have much better standards.

Trade with the EU on WTO terms ? Yes it makes sense.

Rolled over deals ? Some are some aren't but if your not happy with them the last thing you want is to be in the EU

I don't think you understand why we voted to leave
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10-04-2021, 08:39 PM
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Re: Article 10 NI protocol

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
The potential of empty shelves was why Boris extended the delay on regulatory checks so it’s Brexiteer hysteria

The EU can mote easily make up the shortfall as the USA, in DGG oak and other countries are prioritising trade deals with them ahead of deal with the UK

Also so far we’ve achieved no substantial benefits with the trade deals we have agreed
Good evening,
respect for your stating this in this forum! From my experience here it will not take too long until the experts will tell you why you are wrong.

Have a nice weekend
 
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