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Re: Plastic in the Med

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Because it cost time and money to depose of it properly .Dumping it costs nothing .

And Spain is dumping it. Aren't there any EU rules & regs?
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We are the only people who obey rules .
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18-05-2020, 12:13 PM
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Re: Plastic in the Med

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
We are the only people who obey rules .
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18-05-2020, 12:15 PM
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Re: Plastic in the Med

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
I thought slavery had been abolished Muddy?
Seems that nowadays the slaves have to find their own way to
the slave masters plantation instead of getting transported to
work like they used to be!
And on the plastic issue it would seem that the plastic has now
replaced the sewage that was threatening the whole mediterranian
region a few years ago, did they ever really solve that problem or
not??

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Yes you would think so wouldn’t you but it hasn’t been .
Illegal immigrants are the new slaves
And argricultural work is so hard and insecure can you blame young people for NOT rushing to do it ?

Cetain parts of the med are cleaner than others depending on how they police it . Spain is one of the main polluters goodness only knows about the North African and places like the Gaza .
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18-05-2020, 12:19 PM
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Re: Plastic in the Med

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
It is a very bad situation but people like Simon Reeve and David Attenborough are likened to someone who throws a hand grenade into a room and then fly off to another location to make another startling documentary and earn some more money.

David Attenborough used to be good when he introduced many people to flora and fauna in far flung places that they would likely never see. I learnt a lot from his interesting documentaries, but then he changed and became a warrior for the planet, criticising everything that man has done to nature, he being one of them!

We have no jurisdiction over Spain, we can just wring our hands and gnash our teeth, not realising that we have just as bad problems here at home. The Spanish government are responsible for allowing this to carry on, and you just can't go waltzing into another country and tell them how conduct their affairs, would you accept them telling us? And may I remind everyone that Spain is part of the EU and they [the EU] don't care as long as the trade goes on and lots of money changes hands, mostly their hands.

These diversionary tactics just prevent people looking at our own back yard.
We can act by not buying fruit and veg produced in this way that is damaging to the planet and to humanity .
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18-05-2020, 03:44 PM
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We watched that Simon Reeve programme about the Spanish salad growers and were so disgusted by it we stopped buying anything produced in Spain to go alongside any fruit or veg grown in the rest of the EU (especially French-grown apples).

As a matter of interest, there are vast expanses of glass houses in Essex and Kent (maybe other counties too) all growing salad greens and tomatoes all year round BUT, we can NEVER find them on the shelves of the supermarkets we frequent. Just who is buying and selling this home-grown produce?
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18-05-2020, 05:52 PM
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So, raising animals contributes to global warming and is bad for the planet.

Now raising vegetables in amounts needed to compensate is bad for the planet.

I guess there is only one answer left....

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18-05-2020, 07:00 PM
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Re: Plastic in the Med

Originally Posted by Percy Vere ->
We watched that Simon Reeve programme about the Spanish salad growers and were so disgusted by it we stopped buying anything produced in Spain to go alongside any fruit or veg grown in the rest of the EU (especially French-grown apples).

As a matter of interest, there are vast expanses of glass houses in Essex and Kent (maybe other counties too) all growing salad greens and tomatoes all year round BUT, we can NEVER find them on the shelves of the supermarkets we frequent. Just who is buying and selling this home-grown produce?
Are those essex greenhouses made of plastic, or glass Percy?
On why we dont see british salad produce in our shops, maybe
our producers get a better price by exporting??
Maybe they recieve some sort of eu subsidy to encourage them
to export ? Likewise for eu countries exporting this way?
The whole eu set up is so complicated stupid things like this are
quite possible! For instance the farming subsidy paid by eu to
farmers is paid by how much land you supposedly farm, not by
how much you produce!
Hence rich arab race horse owners in uk have been claiming the
farm subsidy, they are not the only ones doing this either!

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18-05-2020, 07:09 PM
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Re: Plastic in the Med

There are growers of all kinds of fruit and vegetables out here, they also have acres of poly tunnels to aid growing. There are also many pickers of all nationalities working there, they are living there too, in houses owned by the growers.

Much of their produce goes to small independent greengrocers (the old kind with small shops) and is also sold in their 'farm shop'. Their in-season strawberries are something else, far more flavour than some of the Spanish strawberries in the supermarkets when our's are out of season. As this is all grown in a 'small way' the supermarkets are priced out of buying any of it, it's worth the extra cost to regular customers as it's always so tasty and fresh.
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18-05-2020, 09:10 PM
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Re: Plastic in the Med

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Lots of different countries, just one planet OGF??

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And we are only responsible for our little corner of it Donkeyman....
 
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