26-06-2020, 05:37 PM
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UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
Here is the agenda for the trade discussions next week between Frost and Barnier.Over the 4 days, you will notice that there is only 4 hours allocated to trade. There is actually more time allocated to having a break and not talking about anything than actually talking about trade
The rest of it is dedicated to David Frost shaking his head and saying "no".
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...720Q_DAQl_9A6A
26-06-2020, 06:10 PM
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Re: UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
Originally Posted by Bread
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Here is the agenda for the trade discussions next week between Frost and Barnier.Over the 4 days, you will notice that there is only 4 hours allocated to trade. There is actually more time allocated to having a break and not talking about anything than actually talking about trade
The rest of it is dedicated to David Frost shaking his head and saying "no".
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...720Q_DAQl_9A6A
https://www.over50sforum.com/showthr...delined&page=3
26-06-2020, 06:24 PM
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Re: UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Like the french say, impossibele! Barnier talking with frost? But the great bread in the sky said barnier was sidelined! Look at his posts!https://www.over50sforum.com/showthr...delined&page=3
26-06-2020, 07:25 PM
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Re: UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
Originally Posted by Bread
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He is - Merkel is running this not Barnier. He is just a puppet now with Germany pulling his strings. Earlier today he was going on about the UK must buy its car parts from the EU and nowhere else (see todays Telegraph).
The UK will have to “live with the consequences” of Boris Johnson ditching Theresa May’s plan to maintain close economic ties with the EU after Brexit,*Angela Merkel*has said, hardening her tone over the prospect of a no-deal scenario at the end of the year.
After more than three years in which the German chancellor repeatedly emphasised her openness to a deal that would maintain the UK’s current flows of trade with the bloc, she suggested the door leading to such a compromise had now closed.
Speaking days before Germany takes over the EU rotating presidency, Merkel made clear that her priority was instead to push through a*pandemic rescue plan*to stop Europe’s economy sliding into the worst slump since the 1930s.
To put it more precise, you're yesterdays news.
26-06-2020, 08:03 PM
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Re: UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Well, merkel is done with you too.The UK will have to “live with the consequences” of Boris Johnson ditching Theresa May’s plan to maintain close economic ties with the EU after Brexit,*Angela Merkel*has said, hardening her tone over the prospect of a no-deal scenario at the end of the year.
After more than three years in which the German chancellor repeatedly emphasised her openness to a deal that would maintain the UK’s current flows of trade with the bloc, she suggested the door leading to such a compromise had now closed.
Speaking days before Germany takes over the EU rotating presidency, Merkel made clear that her priority was instead to push through a*pandemic rescue plan*to stop Europe’s economy sliding into the worst slump since the 1930s.
To put it more precise, you're yesterdays news.
That rescue plan is the one you don't want.
26-06-2020, 08:39 PM
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Re: UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
Originally Posted by Bread
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That rescue plan is the one you don't want.
Merkel and Macron’s initiative faces resistance from Austria, Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands. Even if they can sway the “frugal four”, in the coming months there is likely to be a scramble for access to recovery packag funds.
Because of the different degrees of damage inflicted by the pandemic, the distribution has to be based on a different formula from the one applied to normal European budgets,” said Merkel. “I hope that this argument will be accepted. This unusual challenge requires us to take an unusual path.
“For countries which are already heavily in debt, more borrowing makes less sense than grants. I am working to convince the remaining countries which have so far been in favour of loans but against grants.”
Borrowing? Isn't that the UK's, by your words bread, preferred solution?
26-06-2020, 08:50 PM
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Re: UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
Originally Posted by Solasch
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Indeed!Merkel and Macron’s initiative faces resistance from Austria, Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands. Even if they can sway the “frugal four”, in the coming months there is likely to be a scramble for access to recovery packag funds.
Because of the different degrees of damage inflicted by the pandemic, the distribution has to be based on a different formula from the one applied to normal European budgets,” said Merkel. “I hope that this argument will be accepted. This unusual challenge requires us to take an unusual path.
“For countries which are already heavily in debt, more borrowing makes less sense than grants. I am working to convince the remaining countries which have so far been in favour of loans but against grants.”
Borrowing? Isn't that the UK's, by your words bread, preferred solution?
Nobody listens to the Netherlands in the EU.
They never have.
27-06-2020, 08:31 AM
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Re: UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
HiNot into personal insults.
We are now in a Critical Stage of the negotiations, both the EU and the UK have their Game Plans.
It is all a matter of who blinks first.
The EU are emboldened because Boris has blinked twice already.
Once on Northern Ireland and recently on collecting Tariffs on EU Imports on day one.
The EU will push and push and push on what they see as weakness.
We deserve better.
27-06-2020, 01:21 PM
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Re: UK and EU Trade Discussions 29th June Agenda
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiNot into personal insults.
We are now in a Critical Stage of the negotiations, both the EU and the UK have their Game Plans.
It is all a matter of who blinks first.
The EU are emboldened because Boris has blinked twice already.
Once on Northern Ireland and recently on collecting Tariffs on EU Imports on day one.
The EU will push and push and push on what they see as weakness.
We deserve better.
The EU sees it as weakness when agreements are not kept. This is especially clear on the items in the political declaration. Legally it is not binding, but boris put his signature on it. They expect him to honour it in full.
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